BIBLE STUDY IN A PRIVATE HOME A CRIME?
Arizona Pastor Arrested, Jailed for Holding Bible Study in Home; His Wife Says It ‘Defies Logic’
Bible study leader Michael Salman is sitting in jail today after his home was raided earlier this week by more than a dozen Phoenix, Ariz. police officers and city officials. His offense? The city says people aren’t allowed to hold private Bible studies on their own property.
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Salman was sentenced to 60 days in jail, three years probation and received a $12,180 fine for “the crime.” His wife Suzanne spoke with Fox and Friends this morning to express her shock and disbelief at the entire situation. According to Suzanne, the city told her that her husband was essentially arrested because the Bible study was at a private house .. and that essentially, it’s a church. Since they weren’t zoned for church, they were told they were breaking the rules.
“It defies logic, honestly. I don’t understand … that something so small got so large like this,” Suzanne said. “People do it all over the United States all the time.”
John Whitehead of the Rutherford Institute believes the family is being discriminated against because of their faith. “The key is — the Constitution guarantees the right to freedom of religion … the right to assemble and talk to each other wherever you want to be – in public or in your home,” he said. “The thing that I think is so shocking is that you might expect this in Iran or [some place] around the world … but happening in the United States, this is so shocking it’s beyond belief.”
Phoenix City Prosecutor Vicki Hill said in a statement: “It came down to zoning and proper permitting. Anytime you are holding a gathering of people continuously as he does, we ave concerns about people being able to exit the facility properly in case there is a fire, and that’s really allt his comes down to.”
What do you make of this case? As Suzanne says in the below interview, is this different than a regularly meeting Tupperware group or the like? And if so, how and why? Click the url for interview.
http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/07/11/arizona-pastor-arrested-jailed...
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Permalink Reply by Harry Riley on -
Another example of constitutional violation of freedom of religion. To study the Bible in ones home is now a crime in Phoenix, Arizona. It's absolutely beyond belief that the Attorney General of Arizona is not on site in Phoenix initiating legal action against the city of Phoenix. Another "Harbinger" reflection.......
Get out of our spiritual life government........read the Constitution.
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Permalink Reply by Twana Blevins on -
This man being arrested for home Bible Study reminded me of what I was thinking was going to be to be happening in the future and behold it is. I wrote this and posted it here on PFA back in May of 2009:
What are we willing to do to take our country back?
http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com/forum/topics/what-are-we-willing...
Everyday we are constantly bombarded with new information about what the Obama administration and those pulling his strings are doing to destroy our country. Everyday we are horrified and disgusted by the arrogance of those who gleefully and willingly participate in the destruction of our country.
We get mad, we post these articles and alerts which keep us up to date on all the new traitorous actions of the fascist/socialist who's desire is to destroy/remove our Constitution, Bill of Rights, Declaration of Independence and Sovereignty. They speak misinformation about our founding document...our foundation...to make them appear to be without value, effect, consequence, or significance and void. We now know that our government is not listening to us, nor do they intend to.
We do have some (very few) honorable men and women holding some government position who are there to serve and not be served, who are standing firm for our Constitution and Republic. They are like lone rangers because as they have stood up to fight for our country, many of us are sitting in front of our computers talking about all that is going on, but what else are we doing to help them, or to help ourselves and to fight for our children's futures? I have to add there are many people standing up and fighting for our country to, BUT they need our help.
I was watching my young niece tonight who was reading her bible preparing for her Sunday School Class tomorrow. My joy in seeing her studying her bible was overtaken with fear of what would happen to her in her adult years if she were found reading her bible. Then my mind wondered into imagining her in a burka. I imagined her being beaten by the likes of the taliban for her ankles showing, for her being beaten because it's a man's duty to beat women into submission. Of course then I thought of her children she would have and what would they endure.
I also imagined if Islam didn't dominate our country and Communism did. My niece still would not be better off. What would happen to her if she was found studying her bible or teaching her children the precepts of God. What would happen to her children? She would not have the freedom of conscious, of exercising her conscious, she and her family would not have the liberty that many have bought and paid for with their blood. Her children will be forced to attend communist or islamic government schools of indoctrination. Her sons only if it's islamic government. Her daughters will be thought to be lower than chattel. I can't live with those thoughts.
So, what can we do?
What are we willing to do to make sure this does not happen to our country, our children,
grandchildren and their children?
What are we willing to sacrifice?
Are we willing to be arrested like Allan Keyes and jailed in our fight?
Are we still consumed with our worldly comforts to get out and fight?
Are we beaten down by our government to where we cower and do nothing?
When I use the word fight, I don't mean for us to physically fight unless we are forced into a corner and that is our only last hope. I mean putting boots on the ground....putting actions to our words.
We are now constantly reacting to this government. We need to switch that...we need to get on the offensive.
I'm asking everyone here to brainstorm and offer hope and suggestions on how we need to change our tactics to achieve what we want to achieve. Please list your suggestions, even if you think they are goofy or insignificant ...still list them, they may not be and/or we could use parts of them as a start or part.
What I don't want to see or read is America is doomed and there is no hope. Please help as we are all in this together...standing side by side, shoulder to shoulder.
Twana
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Permalink Reply by 28vb8b9rkqmij on -
not that long ago the new york times wanted to tax the air, now obamacare will take care of that, the bigger the city / gov’t the more “permit$” are required for anything, especially living… hate speech is singular, freedom of speech is plural… let’s make law enforcement lead, follow or get out of the way before they’re rolled over by their “allegiance” to We The People.
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Permalink Reply by Pat on
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I have muslim neighbors who always having something going on at their house. They block driveways, fire hydrants, cause it to be very chaotic and HOA will not say a word to them. I have always wondered what they are doing with cars coming in and out.
I wonder if I were to have a Bible study here and cause a traffic jam, what would happen to me.
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Permalink Reply by Steven G. Elliott on -
That is probably a good enough excuse to get the war going.
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Permalink Reply by Pat on
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Steven are you commenting to me? LOL If I were to start a Bible study at my house it probably would start a war as I have mostly liberal neighbors and two muslim families.
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Permalink Reply by phrowt on -
This is an example of government at any level using regulations to eliminate the first ammendment.
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Permalink Reply by anne skiver on -
They should go to the city council meeting and have this front and center. We will not comply!
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Permalink Reply by Dorris Ponstingl on
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I dare them come to my house, they would be blown out of the water.It is time for retaliation.
I am really sick of all the BS.
This is WHAT HITLER DID IN GERMANY. I say if they show up then Blow em up.
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Permalink Reply by Marvin Green on -
It would appear that in Phoenix a man's home is no longer his castle. Is the city going to go around and bust everyone who has a private party in their home because they have concerns about people being able to exit in an emergency. I hope one of the religious advocacy legal groups gets a hold of this. This man's freedom of religion is being attacked as well as the group's right to freedom of assembly. The city and their idiot prosecutor could be made to look very bad if an advocacy group takes up his cause. Let's hope that happens.
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Permalink Reply by Johnny Smith on -
Marvin, maybe we should take this up as a cause as a group and blast the city council and mayor's office with phone calls and emails. We have a large enough group and could expand it via our social connections to flood them with our rejection of this action. What do you think? Lets find those email addresses and phone numbers and get busy. I looked up the council's web page, it links to their email addresses and gives phone numbers. http://phoenix.gov/citycouncil/councilstaff.html
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