By JB Williams
Well, with the laundry list of political legal eagles lining up to claim that anchor babies like Marco Rubio are Natural Born Citizens too, one must assume that the RNC intends to place an anchor baby on the ballot with Romney and they are prepared to burn the Constitution to do it. Apparently, they are prepared to lose in November too….
In the latest RNC effort to redefine Natural Born Citizen, clearing Rubio for the GOP ticket, once respected Tennessee Senator Fred Thompson enters the fray. Thompson wastes no time regurgitating the same lies that have protected Barack Obama from “birthers” concerned with Obama’s real birth place for four years now.
In a they did it, so can we, attempt to forever eliminate Article II Natural Born Citizen requirements for the offices of President and Vice President, Thompson repeats lies told by Heritage Foundation and left-wing lawyers for the Obama-nation in an overt attempt to silence the truth, that Marco Rubio and Barack Obama are both constitutionally ineligible for office, according to well-known constitutional history.
These legal eagles seem to have trouble defining anchor baby and Natural Born Citizen, even though the definitions and history are 100% clear on both.
An “anchor baby” is a child born in the U.S.A. to parents who are not legal U.S. Citizens at the time of the child’s birth. Under the 14th Amendment and subsequent immigration and naturalization laws, the U.S.A. grants that child “naturalized citizen” rights at birth and then that child becomes an “anchor” upon which the foreign parents can apply and usually receive naturalized citizenship as immigrant Americans.
Contrary to false statements made in Rubio’s bio, his parents did NOT “immigrate” to the United States in 1956. They did not begin their immigration and naturalization process until more than four years after Marco’s birth, more than fifteen years after they took residence in the U.S. Therefore, they could not confer upon Marco that which they did not possess at his birth, U.S. Citizenship.
While our immigration and naturalization laws currently offer general citizen rights to “anchor babies” like Rubio, born in the U.S. to foreign parents, the 14th Amendment has no bearing at all upon the definition of Natural Born Citizen or the Article II constitutional qualifications for the office of President and Vice President.
A citizen is either naturalized under the 14th or Natural Born to legal citizen parents, exempt from all immigration and naturalization laws and amendments. It is not possible to be both and Fred Thompson knows it!
In simple terms, a Natural Born Citizen of the United States is a child who inherits maximum citizenship rights from their citizen parents at birth, including the rights reserved for only Natural Born Citizens, like holding the office of President or Vice President. Obviously, if someone received citizenship via 14th Amendment immigration and naturalization statutes, they cannot possibly be a Natural Born Citizen.
Now, either legal eagles like Fred Thompson know this and choose to lie, or they don’t know it, in which case they are legal beagles rather than legal eagles. You decide…. But know this…. Ignorance is quickly solved with information. Ignorance in the face of information is something quite different.
The outright lies (intentional or unintentional) presented by Fred Thompson and others are as follows…
1. “First, this is a legal question. Therefore, the test with regard to a question such as this is, “What would the Supreme Court likely hold if the question were presented to it?”
FALSE – It is not a legal question for judicial usurpers to dictate definition upon their political agendas. It is a Constitutional question. The American people, NOT the Supreme Court, are the final arbiters of what is or is not constitutional. Nobody above a 3rd grade reading level needs a lawyer to explain the true meaning of three simple words, Natural Born Citizen.
2. “I think that he is a charismatic politician with a bright future. He is also untested on the national stage. I can see arguments for and against him. But I won’t sit back and watch him get caught up in a bunch of foolishness that misleads people about his eligibility to be President.”
FALSE - Thompson refers to the TRUTH about Natural Born Citizen and Marco Rubio as “foolishness.” He accuses people desperately trying to force the TRUTH out into the open as “misleading people about eligibility,” against anchor babies like Rubio, Jindal, Obama and others. Yet the TRUTH is readily available, obvious and on record. Anchor babies, children born to foreign parents receiving their citizenship via the 14th Amendment, are NOT Natural Born Citizens. To suggest otherwise is beyond foolishness, it is a treasonous lie.
3. “The answer is the English common law, which formed the basis for our own legal structure, opinions of our Founding Fathers, U.S. court decisions, and the 14th Amendment.”
FALSE – While it is true that our Judicial System was patterned after British Common Law and British court systems, it is FALSE to state that our Declaration, Constitution, Bill of Rights and system of self-governance were based upon British Common Law. Our Founders placed ALL faith in the people, not government or the courts, which they had seen corrupted from top to bottom in England. They entrusted ALL of our fundamental rights as “Endowed by our Creator” under Natural Law or the Laws of Nature, NOT British Common Law, which they had just separated from in the American Revolution.
4. FALSE – Thompson goes on to use 14th Amendment “naturalization” cases to define Natural Born Citizen, when in fact, the 14th mentions nothing at all about Natural Born Citizens, clearly a special type of citizen in the minds of our Founders, or Article II requirements for high office. In short, Thompson takes the lawyers only road to redefining Natural Born Citizen as nothing more than 14th Naturalized Citizen, or “anchor babies.” It is an outright lie!
Keep in mind that “anchor babies” and the 14th Amendment did not exist at the passage of the Constitution. That the Founders had to exclude themselves from the Natural Born Citizen requirement in order to hold office, as none of our Founders were Natural Born Citizens even though most of them had been born on what would later become known as U.S. soil.
In a November 1804 letter to Mrs. John Adams, Thomas Jefferson wrote – “But the opinion which gives to the judges the right to decide what laws are constitutional, and what not, not only for themselves in their own sphere of action, but for the legislature and executive also, in their spheres, would make the judiciary a despotic branch.”
At no time in history has judicial despotism been more visible than it is today and it has been going on since the passage of the Constitution.
Readers MUST ask themselves several key questions and answer those questions as honestly as possible.
· Is there any chance that Fred Thompson does not know that our Founders borrowed the term Natural Born Citizen from Vattel’s Law of Nations, along with almost everything else they created? Include Sean Hannity, Bill O’Reilly, Megan Kelly, Glenn Beck, Heritage Foundation, American Thinker, Newsmax, the RNC, the Supreme Court and many others when asking this question?
· Is there any chance that these people don’t know that eight attempts were made by congress to alter or abolish the Natural Born Citizen clause prior to the election of Barack Hussein Obama?
· Is there any chance that these folks don’t know the difference between Natural Law (as-in Endowed by our Creator) and British Common Law (laws based upon the treasonous acts of the judiciary and political shifting sands), or that the latter is the rule of man via judicial despotism and tyranny?
· Is there any chance that these political experts don’t know that 14th Amendment anchor babies are not Natural Born Citizens, or why the Founders chose “only Natural Born Citizens” for the highest offices in our land?
· If you believe that all of these people simply lack all of this knowledge, can you trust these people to protect and defend our inalienable rights as Endowed by our Creator?
Consider these questions very carefully, do your own homework, and draw your own conclusions. Is it possible that all of these Republicans are ALL wrong? YES! The question is WHY?
For me, there is NO chance that these intelligent people lack the knowledge that Natural Born Citizen was borrowed from The Law of Nations, based in Natural Law NOT man-made laws, and that “naturalized” citizens are NOT “Natural Born Citizens.” There is no chance that they don’t know why our Founders reserved the highest offices in our land to only Natural Born Citizens, free from any foreign loyalties or entanglements.
Even the U.S. Senate got it right in a 99-0 Resolution declaring John McCain a Natural Born Citizen as the natural son of American citizen parents, no matter where he was born. Do you still believe these people don’t know? Why are they all lying?
I was an enthusiastic supporter of Fred Thompson for President in 2008, proving that even I get fooled once in a while.
Fool me once, shame on you…. But fool me twice, and the buck stops with me!
Are you willing to be fooled any longer? Or are you ready to protect and defend the Charters of Freedom as they were written and intended?
Time will soon tell. If Rubio appears on the ticket with Romney, it will signal that there is nobody left in politics that cares at all about the Constitution. Voters will face a choice between two unconstitutional tickets from the RNC and DNC in November, or a 3rd party protest vote that will re-elect Barack Obama for certain.
Where is Ron “Mr. Constitution” Paul or his son Rand, both of whom have been entirely MIA on this matter? People willing to let Article II fall, will let all of it fall as long as it doesn’t interfere with their personal agenda.
How much longer are you willing to be deceived? Do you feel better being deceived by your friends rather than your known enemies? Are you really willing to give up your Constitutional Republic without so much as a whimper?
If anything in our Founding documents is worth fighting for, everything in those documents is worth fighting for. Lose Article II and you will lose The Charters of Freedom altogether. We are playing for all the marbles now. Don’t even blink….
If I were to accept their logic on anchor babies being natural born citizens as well as a child born of two parents who are also citizens. . . then it seems logical that we are now all citizens of the world and there are now no national borders nor citizens of any nation. IMO the reason for the Law-- for the clause being adopted was the Law was to add additional assurance that the Office of the President would assure the people that its' law givers would be men whose allegiance was beyond question to this nation. If a person is born of illegal immigrants is now according to the "legal eagles " equally a natural born citizen then is No need for the Office of Immigration Nor for citizenship laws . And the office and the duties can be dissolved.
Exactly right Robert! And that is what the Socialists of this country want and are apparently getting without much of a fight! Whether knowingly or unknowingly, the GOP in and out of congress has fallen prey to their faulty reasoning. Sure--I think Marco Rubio would be a MUCH better vice-pres than MOST. He would even be a GREAT president! You and I know, there is a REASON why our founders wrote the eligibility requirements the way they did. Now we must fight to keep it pure. It may turn into another civil war that WILL pit GOP brother against GOP brother, but it MUST be. EXCEPTIONS to the rule have a way of BECOMING the rule.
In a society where the basic, God-given, "Unalienable Right to Life" for innocent persons, is perceived as a "gray" and "complicated" issue, it does not surprise me that the term "Natural Born Citizen" has suffered the same fate of political manipulation. Many have simply grown too lazy to apply historical context and common sense in reading and upholding the Constitution. Instead, these same people are content to give their consent to that which is done solely for the purpose of advancing an agenda, without any additional thought on the matter. "If the high profile politicians say it's so, it must be so".
Kevin, you are absolutely correct. Unfortunately, we have become a nation of sheep and followers, the leaders are constantly being "cut down" by our government at every level. Kinda like being the tallest blade of grass on grass-cutting day. The problem is, The Founders KNEW this day would come, and they approved of what we would have to eventually do. The problem is, we (Americans) had such a long run of financial and geopolitical "harmony", we lost our collective ability to think clearly and continue to understand our RESPONSIBILITIES to our country, our forefathers, and to The Founders. We must continue to stand tall, and if we get "mowed over", that is part and parcel of the process outlined in The Constitution.
Thanks for this up-date.
While I agree, unfortunately, that Mitt Romney is our best choice to remove Obama, gain some breathing room, and reinstall Constitutional Libertarians and Tea Party Patriots into all levels of government; it is obvious Romney still plans on eating away, albeit more slowly and insidiously, the foundations of our great country. It MUST be known to Romney, without any doubt, that including Marco Rubio in the VP position of his ticket, is a SURE FIRE WAY to keep voters home, and disconnect completely from the system. It also bears awareness, that the more people feel disenfranchised by the current government, the more the people will rebel and violence WILL escalate in society. If Romney wants to cater to the ILLEGAL-ALIEN vote so badly, then he is just as bad as Obama, and in fact, we gain nothing from his Presidency! Romney MUST capitulate on this point, no further conversation. Period.
Twana, you and I have not agreed on this point completely, but I sincerely hope you see where I'm coming from here. On that same point, and to liven up the debate a bit, there is strong rumor that Romney MAY be vetting Rand Paul as a VP possibility. NOW, while I still would have loved to see Ron Paul get the Republican nomination and restore the US to it's Constitutional roots, THIS OPPORTUNITY would serve to swell support for Romney from his base, bring MANY Independents to his ticket, as well as many moderate Democrats. In my humble opinion, RAND PAUL would be Romney's best play here, and the best play for The United States. If we are trying to talk Electoral College here, this is the best way to add points on the board, so to speak.
Steve you know I do not allow off topic redirection and hijackings on my posts! If you wanna do electioneering for the pauls start another thread. This is the only warning. It annoys me that you know I don't allow it and you don't care...you push and do it anyway. We are not children here and I am not anyones mother here! You know the way things work around here - honor them or go else where.
Yes I deleted your newest comment. I will delete anymore off topic comments....don't push.....I will not put up with it for long! I am not your mother to watch over you.
TWANA - I'm gone. I don't do ultimatums. You don't deserve someone that takes things as seriously as I do, nor do you respect what I have done for this country, as I have never felt the need to boast or brag. You push harder than you feel you want anyone to push you. It just doesn't work like that! You have obviously been spited in your life, at some point, now you feel it is unjustly warranted to do to others. Deal with your own issues, before you cause someone else problems. You are not what you think you are outwardly, and sadly you are no longer worth my time. PFA will fail, if it ever fails, directly due to your personality. Take the chip off your shoulder, we were all supposed to be on the same team, but you seem to think you are a team unto yourself. So, what happens when you need your 6 looked after...crickets.
Sorry girl, but you need to back off with your attitude. I agree with Steve and I am gone too.
Legal Eagles are part of the problem in this country, they feel that the Constitution is a living document, and open to modified interpretation. Publius Huldah stated on the 12 July 2012 as extraxted here:
“The children of aliens, born in this state, are considered as
natural born subjects, and have the same rights with the rest of the citizens.” [emphasis mine] But “subjects” are not “citizens”;
and we fought a war so that we could be transformed from “ subjects of the British Crown” to Citizens of a Republic!
It was also my understanding that the Founders did not intend for any "Lawyer" to hold public office.
Many "Lawyers" seem to think they can interpret the laws as they see fit when it will benefit their agenda.
Not sure how that can be, since Jefferson and Adams are both listed as Lawyers... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_the_United_State...