I reject world and Muslim outrage over the alleged killing of civilians in Afghanistan by a U.S. soldier.
I can understand a soldier who snaps in war but I cannot and will not understand an ideology that routinely and intentionally targets women and children the way Islam does.
I know you’ve already read the story about this one U.S. soldier but have you seen news coverage of the Islamic terrorist’s rocket attacks on Israel? Read that CNN headline and the first two paragraphs and see if the emphasis is on the Islamic terrorist’s rocket attacks or the Israeli response.
Don’t get me wrong; Stevebussey.com and the Steve Bussey Radio Experience in no way condone the intentional killing of civilians in war or through terrorism by anyone. But remember, seeking to understand something is not akin to condoning or supporting that thing just as rejecting the situational or hypocritical outrage is not to condone it.
A United States soldier apparently took his weapon and went house to house killing civilians in Afghanistan just outside his base. My question isn’t why he did it but why it hasn’t happened before or more often.
I don’t want it to happen but I feel I understand war and warriors and as the old saying goes, war is hell. Soldiers sometimes snap in war and atrocities do happen – they’ve happened in every single war in the history of man and the world.
Now, place on top of the “norm” of what happens in war the fact that our soldiers lives are placed at increased risk through being forced to fight with one hand tied behind their backs by our own “rules of engagement” and the hypocrisy of being condemned and murdered for accidently burning a book while the other side routinely uses civilian women and children as human shields, intentionally kills civilians for “collaborating” with NATO forces and more and you have a recipe for disaster on your hands.
I’m not saying we should “sink to their level” or condone the murder of civilians in war. I’m saying we should understand the psychology behind what happens with our soldiers and call for at least the same level of outrage over what our enemies routinely do as we see with the anomalous behavior from a few of our soldiers.
Americans and American leadership had damn well better start accounting for human nature and what the wrong style of leadership and failing to fight properly with the objective of winning does to young men in war.
Our soldiers must have clearly defined military missions and goals versus a mixture of war and law enforcement; the real ability to go after and kill the enemy combined with the real ability to protect themselves; realistic leadership that protects them and their interest as opposed to seeking to prosecute them for the normal consequences of war and false accusations from terrorists and unlawful combatants and the resounding support of their national command authority.
We must reject the premise that situations such as this lead to increased terrorism or ill-will toward America because that’s just an outright lie. Our enemies do not need or even seek additional reasons to hate us and they don’t need additional recruitment tools since they’re already indoctrinating young children in their schools and homes to hate us.
Islamic terrorists have no respect for innocent life and don’t even define innocent life as we do.
Muslims see civilians as legitimate military targets and use women and children, as I said earlier, as human shields. They celebrated the 9/11 attacks in America even though they were attacks against civilians. They celebrate attacks against Coptic Christian churches and the Coptic Christians themselves. And the world watches as Muslim terrorists routinely attack civilian targets in Israel and then the so-called civilized world condemns Israel and justifies the Islamic terrorism against them.
So we can and must reject the outrage over this event by the majority of Muslims across the Middle East and elsewhere and equally reject the false notion that these types of events give our enemies reasons to attack us.
Have you seen much coverage of the Muslim terrorists rocketing civilian areas in Israel the past couple of days? I’ve seen some but not much and it is usually Israel that is condemned for their response and not the terrorists for their attacks. Politicians, diplomats, pundits and academics will make excuses for the Muslim terrorism against Israel and Israeli civilians as they always do.
When I see the appropriate level of outrage over Islamic terrorists killing women and children in Israel, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Yemen, Sri Lanka, Congo, Nigeria, India, Somalia, Thailand, the Philippines, Egypt and dozens of other countries then you come and talk to me about this single American G.I. and this anomalous event.
I think you nailed it JM..........
Possibly--only possibly. The Sgt. it is now leaked-for whatever purpose --was at one time trained as a sniper.Now unless I am mistaken the part that sets a sniper as distinct is the focus upon removing the target.
Eliminating the obstacle to the mission success. (Fits in with your "Kill people and break things") IMO,ONLY -The man had served multiple tours in Iraq--and was well into a tour in Afghanistan. Common to both --Islam.Common factor ignored by our American Government America is NOT (yet?) included in the House of Islam. Those deployed were subjected to Islam as troops are always subject to the laws and mores of the host Country. Were I trained as a sniper. OR as a soldier--The obstacle faced that defies mission success is Islam. We cannot help the Muslim overcome their bloody religion and customary slaying. USE of force -bloodshed and forced subjugation -destruction is a hallmark of that bloody religion foreign to any logic taught in the West. When the American Military burned our Christian Bible to appease the Islamic host. We did not slay Muslims to avenge or protect the honor of our Holy Book. And there were No Islamic apologies,I am aware of. When Islamic prisoners defiled their Holy Book -And those Koran probably purchased at our American expense ,were denied circulation-and later disposed of as required under Islamic Law. When they were in the burn pit It allowed the enemy a weapon to drive us from the House of Islam. It revealed the obstacle to mission success. ...ISLAM. The riots and the murder done --we were told to avenge or defend the honor of their Sacred Text.We were told we must accept. Must apologize.Must grovel and beg forgiveness form our Muslim overlords-we had offended. "Now is no the time for revenge." it was leaked,for what purpose? But a man trained as a sniper. Saw the obstacle to our missions success and took it upon himself as a sniper to eliminate the problem. He acted as any rational human being would under those circumstance.And we are now told we must HATE and FEAR--and condemn this man who responded to the environment he was put in as he was trained to do. IF we are to condemn him for his endangerment of the others so deployed -- we may as well lay down our weapons and kiss the sand --and beg forgiveness from Allah and his bloody slaves.And if we are unwilling to be slaves-- we ought re-deploy -withdraw and regroup somewhere outside the House of Islam Because ISLAM is the factor standing between the US and Mission success.
I just want to now if any of us have got any answers for our congress men or women i know i have written more then five letters to all of mine and all i get are yes we understand but no true answers when are they going to wake up if they don't soon we well be liveing in a dictatorship! am sorry if i got off topic but dam the congress just keeps let them get away with this sh-t
right now I am too angry to respond. Our Government--and our Military (that serves our government) are now subject to Islam. I took as my own a Code back in 69. "... I will never surrender of my own free will..." The Code went on to suggest IF captured I will never cease to attempt escape -and will never cease to attempt to help others escape..." How do we help our government -and Our Military Leadership escape from the evil they have willingly submitted to? How do we restore the foundations THEY have destroyed to erect their multicultural global vision. "I know not what course others may take; but as for me,give me Liberty-or give me death!" Patrick Henry March23,1775 When I lay down I want inscribed in stone He was trained by the US Army to "Live and act as becomes a Christian Soldier..." And lived to honor those founding principles.
When liberals are in charge they take away individuality and self purpose of those they rule through upward allegiances, but when muslims are in charge they do that in a downward way. Our soldiers are now trapped in-between, they are being stressed into submission, if unhindered they will crack and either kill the original enemy without permission, lose track of who is an enemy and/or become good muslim soldiers.
I want to say "I am extremely proud of the SSG in question, accused of killing civilians" not for what he is accused of but for what he was willing to endure as a warrior.
Who can wonder why this soldier broke? We have a bunch of people in Washington that think nothing of sending our military in harms way for decades, little to no break between deployments, contributing to family separtation that is devastating, and then without thought come down on them. The soldier in question had been to Iraq three times, suffered traumatic brain injury during one of his Iraq tours......and the military sends him into the mayhem of Afghanistan...he should not even have been in Afganistan...what is wrong? It's the leadership from the White House and the Generals that's killing Americans and also killing innocent civilians in Afghanistan.
I think what we should be doing is finding the best possible lawyer team to defend the SSG....how many times have I written, screamed, that the politicians in Washington were simply using our warriors as cannon fodder for personal political purposes.
If anybody should go to jail, it should start with Obama and the rest of the despicable, cowardly chain of military command........
Harry... that is the very best idea I have heard on this topic!!
What a NOVEL Approach.... To support Our Troops that we send into Battle... Ooopss I mean "Nationbuilding Under Fire"... Again and Again.... and for what?
It is long overdue to begin consideration of support for our warriors as opposed to what we have been given.
Whatever the sitiuation, we have been giving our Warriors that we send into harm's way far too little credit and support for the horrendous task that is before them. We sit in the comfort and safety of our homes here and have literally no conception of what our Politicians and our Generals demand of our troops with Rules of Engagement that we could only see as appalling!!!
Harry. I'm with you. I can't contribute a whole lot but I am willing to contribute what I can. There has got to be some legal team out there who will defend him pro bono or for nothing more than expenses. You are also right about about the prosecution should start at the White House and work its way down through all the bureaucratic troglodytes both civilian and military who are responsible for putting our military in the situation they are in and imposing such ridiculous rules of engagement.
Fox News is now reporting that the traitor known as Leon Panetta is saying that this soldier may face the death penalty. Under no circumstances can we allow that to happen. We will never know the entire story. The traitorous brass in the Pentagon has already started their CYA campaign by saying that alcohol may have been involved. They are also trying to down play his previous head injuries. Those of us who have served in the military also know that the chain of command starting at the base he was assigned to will be doing all sorts of CYA all the way to the Pentagon. I suspect that for "security reasons" they will not allow the public or press to attend the court martial, if there is one. Does anyone, with a detestable, dirt bag, traitorous, scum like Dempsey as chairman of the joint chiefs, think that this soldier will get a fair trial? We also need to figure out some way of making sure his trial is held here in the states. Perhaps then we can have some influence on the out come.
if it were up to me i would give this soldier a two stripe promotion 30 days leave (off the books) a steak dinner and his choice of duty station and a few ribbons to pin on his chest.
I heard a report that the young man suffered from a brain injury and PTSD. Above is a great post, one I agree with.
i am a 3 tour vietnam vet and served in desert storm also. in vietnam the term was gook. What i find hard to believe is an green beret sgt actually left the compound and murdered civilians. nor do i believe that he wasnt charged with murder within 24 hours. something smells bad about this whole incident. a friend who is on active duty has said there are plans being made for a complete withdrawal from the theatre in less than 3 months. is this a created situation which would allow the left to further humiliate the u.s. by snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. do not forget this administration is morally bankrupt and is capable of anything.