PFA Discussion for All Members - What are your thoughts/PLANS on what we can do to restore our country - HOWEVER, THEY CANNOT BE PETITITON ANY GOVERNMENT SEAT NOR GO TO A RALLY

I'm asking all of PFA members to get in on this discussion. If you are truly linking arms with us, it is time to step up and engage with us.

This is a very important question and with a very important catch to it................We need everything laid on the table to see what we have, the catch is, we cannot throw on the table two plans of action: We cannot put on the table petitioning any government department, agency, or seat and we also cannot put on the table - to hold a rally or sit in.

We must acknowledge the truths of the environment in our country. We are now in a socialist country, it doesn't matter if you like that fact or not....we're there. We must also acknowledge that trying to work with a socialist government by pretending that we can use tools of liberty is dishonest and discouraging.

So, what do you got?

Twana

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There have been MANY warnings within PFA from members regarding "planning".  The Blaze cited this WH Memo....Our Brothers and Sisters are prophetic....

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/11/21/presidential-...

 

Use EXTREME CAUTION on What and HOW you discuss.......

 

Semper Vigilo, Fortis, Paratus et Fidelis

In addition to what everyone else has said, we first and foremost MUST be active in our churches, if it's liberal, either get with like minded members and get back to a Christ centered Bible believing church or leave for one that is! If we get liberalism out of the church, and grow those Bible based churches, then everything else will fall into line.


Remember that the number one reason that our republic is in the condition that it is, that 51% of us voted for a committed Marxist, is because over the years, we as a nation lost our way. We now call good evil and evil good. This isn't about politics people, it's about the gross immoral condition of our nation!

Reply for Bruce and his deleting postings...

Holy Cow! All that brilliant writing I did last night just blasted into cyber dust.

Good thing I had planned to post Plan # 2 (of 2) tonight or I never would have known that Plan # 1 had been deleted. Here's the very short version of Plan # 1.... We need to get into the Colleges and Universities where the most damage is being done.

My reason for this is a no-brainer... It is Young Adults around the world as well as the USA that protest without the burden of a new mortgage, car loans, and a newborn.

Revolutions are fought by Young Adults and we need a REVOLUTION! Almost any negative you can think of has been planned for, but that's for another time and place.

Plan # 2... We must force a change in this country's mass media. We cannot win with the media we have. This too needs many thoughtful ideas to succeed, but it can be done. I hate the following term but it's the only thing that fits at the moment, so here goes..... Every single one of us must start "thinking outside the box".

The left has been doing this for many years. Now we have to do it better! In the meantime consider joining a local militia.

Sorry - one more time - not intentional !

we the people,who are the real government,we can win without the media,the bought and paid for treasonous vile main medias,we the people by me,have not listened to or watched,any of the medias in a long time,we know the are useless,lawless,treasonous,and only print and show what they want,which is usually corrupt,treasonous,and lies.so who needs them,we have our own media,its truthfull,honest,its talking everyday face to face with our friends,neighbors,and community,and our entire area.and we the people by me don,t like to be confined,by thinking inside or outside of any box,we talk,listen,observe and adjust as we go.and as far as we can,t work with a socialist government,thats no true,a government wheather it be socialist or not,bottom line there people,were people period.when people meet people,theres always a choice.no not a revolution,an evolution a change,to wayne/nra,donald thrump,you stated ovomit/satan in revolution begin.let the evolution begin.wayne/nra/donald/amac/john birch society/all militias/all freedom loving,god fearing american veternas/citizens.time to communicate/prepare/focus/plan/refine plan.yea thou i walk in the valley of the shadow of death,i will fear no evil/ovomit

I think some folks believe we still have time, we don't. This nation is bankrupt - financial ruin in immienent. For those who think we have time on our side you need to really think about what financial destruction means,  not just what it looks like on the homefront but what it will look like at our borders. Long term solutions are necessary but only if we have an immediate plan of action to stop the titanic from sinking and it is sinking, I believe being sunk with intent.

PLAN 1:

-  Stop paying Federal Income Withholding Taxes. Fill out a new W-9. Indicate that you have 10 or more Dependents.

( Need to pay State Taxes to keep your State Healthy and Financed)

-  Boycott the Federal Government.

-  Protest on the Front Lawn of the White House for the IMMEDIATE RESIGNATION of the President Barack Obama (Barry Soetoro), Vice President Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton and The Presidents Entire Cabinet for Treason and Fraud against the American People and The United States of America and Our Constitution, Bill of Rights and Declaration of Independence.

- This will Force Obama to accept fate. Don't give in to his lies. Setup Gallo s on the Steps of the white house and commence Sentencing.  Let this be viewed on Live Media World Wide, that the America People will not tolerate Treason or fraud on US any more.

- Implement a New Election and dismiss the use of the Electoral College, Acorn, Black Panthers, or any other organization such as Unions that imposes their influence on voters. Vote for the right President from your heart not from your twisted Arm. 

PLAN 2

Same As Plan One with the exception that we have to fight to the death to regain OUR Once Great Country.  

The Protest Needs to Start on the 10th of December 2012. This is a week before they let out for the Holidays. Need 10% of the Population up to 156 million protestors. Not one Shot will be fire. Trust me. This would prove without a shadow of a doubt that the People of the United States of America will unit and prevail no matter what the odds. That We do Believe in Our Country and We Will Protect Our Nation and We are Still One Nation Under GOD.

Sorry to be the party pooper, BUT, I'm a realist and can't stand seeing people still in denial. The total tally of votes for Romney was 60,703,617. 20% of the populaton and they only had to go , in most cases, less than 1 mile to vote and stand outside for far less than an hour. Last years trip to the Capital garnered 200 +/-. That trip had a couple months lead up, I think. My memory is terrible. 

 

You will NOT get anyone to go to D.C. to stand outside with 1 weeks notice.

 

Not to mention protests will NEVER get the results we want. If you are not prepared to fight, then you are prepared to LOSE!

So many of our great Military men have been removed from their posts...They need to be contacted and brought into the patriots fold...They are great wealths of information and inspiration...

I have a question:

Where in the Constitution does it authorize a president to propose a budget?

Article II, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution says:

"He shall from time to time give to the Congress information of the state of the union, and recommend to their consideration such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in case of disagreement between them, with respect to the time of adjournment, he may adjourn them to such time as he shall think proper; he shall receive ambassadors and other public ministers; he shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed, and shall commission all the officers of the United States."

For decades, the Republicans have allowed a president to dictate to them what will be in a budget, what he wants to spend and what taxes should or should not be cut. All bills of expenditure must originate in the House of Representatives, not the Oval Office.

Right now, the Oval Office is still empty because Barry Soetoro aka Obama is a usurper. I will never recognize him as president and neither should anyone else.

John Boenher, Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives has been a complete and utter failure. Look at how many times he has given in to the imposter president and gotten in bed with Soetoro on every destructive trade treaty over the past four years. The obscene circus playing out in Washington, DC is just another "event" as those liars and thieves take this country to bankruptcy.

 

There has to be an unseen entity behind how obama remains in the White House, let alone got there in the first place. If for no other reason, his father was never a US citizen. Pretty obvious!  So I conclude that there are powers unseen to the common man that orchestrate world matters. We must keep our eye on world matters. The middle east, Jerusalem, that ties in with the diminishing of the USA. The rise of the Muslim Brotherhood and 'talk' of a Caliphate. Our nation has been lured by dreams of quick wealth, this has led to the instability of the family. Children being taken over & educated by 'strangers'. Education being changed to socialistic ideals and personal pleasure.No quick fix to any of this. We cannot 'turn back time'. But a 'remnant' will be saved. For the sake of the 'remnant' we must educate, give aid and resist the "powers' that be. Reach out to those whom have scales on their eyes, that they may be removed. We cannot give up the fight!

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