The facts we know:
1. The Election was given to Hussein obama
2. We're stuck with Hussein obama/them.
3. The Constitution is no longer the law of the land - We have a despot Government, The 1963 Congressional Record of the Communist Goals of America have been fulfilled.
4. Socialism/Marxism and even islam is being indoctrinated into our youth and citizens through:
5. We live in a land of selfish people who are only concerned with themselves and sadly not even concerned about their kids. But hey, what do we expect from a peoples who find no fault in demanding we all pay for them to kill their and anyone elses babies.
6. We live in a land with wide open borders with jihadi terrorists and thug drug lord gang bangers flooding across daily doing much damage and preparing to do more. We also have illegal invaders crossing our borders to drain us and our country of all it's resources.
7. People who claim to be conservatives are not united. We have over 10,000 tea party groups because we have over 10,000 different agendas and most refuse to work together even though they calm (in front of their members) they will . We've opened our arms to folks who are foe because we needed to play the numbers game to win an election and in the end they revenge voted.
8. Obama, with Clinton and the Muslim Brotherhood, are using the whitehouse to run the muslim caliphate. Most American Citizens will not acknowledge that truth because they will not do their own homework and prefer to listen to folks who tell them there is such a thing as moderate muslims. However, if they'd just read the quran, hadiths and suras they would know the truth for themselves. But many folks don't want to know the truth, they prefer to believe what they prefer to be true and to hell with the factual truth.
9. The DOJ is totally corrupt. We can get no justice through them.
10. The Judicial system is totally corrupt. We can get no justice through them.
11. The U.S. Congress is spineless and will not do their job.
12. The U.S. Senate is ran by Marxists
Knowing all this plus more, what do we, as PFA members want to do with PFA? We know what is coming and we know it's going to be bloody.
Then we need to think about if we want to keep PFA open.
This is just the start of the discussions we need to have. I need your input as active members.
I will not listen to anymore chatter about campaigning for another election. No smack talking like we're right before a football game. If that is all we got then we are done.
I don't mean to be rude, I just want to be straight up with you all and it's time we're all straight up.
Marvin, Alabama is red and has been for a very long time, as far as national elections go. The midterms in '10 were a blood bath for dems in the state legislature and it went red for the first time since reconstruction as well. We passed an amendment to our state constitution this vote that no person may be compelled to purchase a product by the government (aimed at the individual mandate in o care). We still have a ways to go but it is becoming more self reliant and getting better as we go. I think Al. will be in the group of the first states that will finally say enough to the federal government.I plan to do whatever I can to push our state government to get divested of federal funds and federal dependency as quickly as possible. Sate government is our only answer.
I saw a lot of posts about the electoral college on this discussion and wanted to say that it has been manipulated by way of the census. My family was never contacted in any way during the last census and I believe there were probably many others who were not counted as well, all in red states. I wish there was a way to verify how many were left out. That would prevent those states from gaining seats in the house and thereby keep them from gaining the electoral votes as well. Sly devils those progressives. Keep the blue states tallied as the most populated and keep their electoral voting numbers much higher than that of the red states and they always win.
I am of the opinion that it may be time to secede. People say oh no you can't do that look what happened 150 years ago. This is not 150 years ago. I think it could be done and it would be bloodless. There are a lot of conservatives in the blue states who would demonstrate against any sort of military action. Should the feds attempt to take over the state governments I think we could overwhelm them with numbers. Another thing in our favor is the fact that the nation as a whole is tired of war and the liberals would certainly not be up for war within the homeland. I think we could have a peaceful separation. The blue states go their way and we go ours. I can assure you that the blue states would not last very long. They would collapse from the welfare burden, drugs, etc. The red states would certainly have the largest amount of the land mass. Something that has always fascinated me is if you view a map of the United States and it is colored by how the individual counties voted it is overwhelmingly red. One of the problems we have is that the large urban areas are controlling the politics of the country. What we need is a modern day South Carolina to lead the way. If one red state were to take the first step I think the rest would follow like dominoes. I would really like to see the first state be Texas.
Marvin, I havn't read it yet but I have an email that the subject line says Louisiana may be about to go the direction of sucession. If it is anything interesting I'll post it on here, if not I'll reply on this discussion.
Okay, read it. It was from WND and it was about a petition started by someone from La. and submitted to the white house web site. It has gained a few signatures but has to have 25k by sometime around the 3rd of Dec. to even be looked at. The submission site is more likely a way for the administration to track folks who submit petitions they don't like but says they will give a response to any petition that meets the 25k signatures required. Probably nothing to even look at.
I am back to when I was in Africa.
I was born in Africa and ,there, I was a dog with my tail between my legs, do not look up, do not say anything, do just like you are told or else; well I got out of there came here in 1970, legally, to be a free man in a free Nation. Today at 70 I am back to when I was in Africa. What a mess, what a disgrace ; all this because of the * stupidity*, * Ignorance* , *Corruption* and * do not care attitude * of decisions made by certain people. These are people that never understood * Freedom * or to be a Free man ........and they will learn the hard way.
To all the Free people and friends here do not give up , stand tall, stand for who we are because there is always hope .
First of all, I am a newer member. However, I have found PFA to be an honest location where I am able to derive information that would likely be otherwise unavailable. Also, sharing thoughts with like-minded people is necessary and fulfilling. As time goes by, we will NEED this source for undiluted dissemination of intel.
America committed suicide via this election and that is a shame. However, it falls upon our collective shoulders to keep freedom and our Constitution alive. The majority of the American people proved yesterday that they're not interested. I will do whatever it takes to keep MY America alive.............
The Obama administration has most of the supreme court and will likely increase strength with predicted appointments in the next few years. The administration has the US District Courts as well (just look at their blocking actions of the past 2 years)....therefore most legal challenges will fall on deaf ears. The congress does NOT have the spine to impeach, no matter what Obama does, has done or even admits to in the future!
Even if Impeached, for actions in the current term, I do not believe impeachment would be valid or affect status of the newly elected term! Obama supporters will not be be convinced to vote against him....no matter what he says or does...just keep the entitlements coming, promise free phones, EBT cards, and Unions in control of major voting blocks....and "secure" Fed. Government jobs...they do not care about energy costs because the subsidized housing includes electricity and fuel payments...so "Electricity rates will necessarily sky-rocket"....because "Obama" will be paying the costs for all those on entitlement programs...using your tax dollars and soon to be announced Federal surcharges on all forms of "non-renewable" energy (predicition from people in system)...(like surcharges that you now pay that fund "Obama phones").
There will be no easy path for the fututre....the stage has been set for progressive/Liberal 2016 victory already....they have always had a better "Machine" in place....
Now we need a major plan for the short & long term...
One thing we need to stop, giving our dollars and aid to the liberal states during disasters like Sandy. We need to leave those states to learn how liberals operate. Let them eat cake.
The north, Calif, NM and Colorado continually run with these progressives. Let them eat cake.
Florida has a large latin population, next hurricane, let them eat cake.
I think that does not work with lady obozo's food agenda for us all. Perhaps you should say "Peas be with you."
All you have said is correct. The sadist part of our government is the ones that are suppose to up hold the Constitution and taken the oath to do so are not doing that. The FBI, CIA, Generals, Colonels have done nothing to stop obozo and his band of thieves and thugs. They spy on us and stay loyal to the thieves and thugs all for a few pieces of silver. What are we to do??? I have prayed and prayed. The conclusion I have come to is GOD is in control and is now letting America go the way of Sodom and Gomorrah. The only way I can think of staying private is through snail mail and that no doubt will be watched. Evil has overcome us. The I, me and myself mentality has set in and taken control. I want, give me, for me I will serve self. I think PFA is a great site and we really need to take time out and pray. What can we do without GOD? Nothing. After working for the election from the location to national level, I listened to the ignorant voters who were voting for the first time. They did not know the local issues, ballot initiatives, judgeships, etc. Many people think they have done great things because they have made a few phone calls or put up a sign. There are more people interested in doing something for recognition then getting results for this country. Even at the lowest level of government and volunteers there are too many chiefs with big egos. The people of this country will pay the penalty for the sins of omission and commission. I worked with the chairman (and wife) of the thumb area in Michigan, together we handed the GOP a 99% red county. The last election it went for obozo. Now we have people that did not help nor attend the meetings and now they want to take over. All a stepping stone for their benefit. I have said enough. Totally bummed out!!!!!!
For those of you who want to leave the country, where are you going to go that is not worse than we are? England is done, Australia is gone, they are importing muslims by the thousands. France is gone Sweden is gone, whats left? Switzerland is still free but they probably won't let you in. I'm afraid were all stuck with this! Unless you know a couple of millionaires who want to buy an Island some where and allow some patriots in for a small fee. I could go for that but I don't know any one who fits that bill.
Running away is not the answer.