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I need two answers from each person:



1. Do you think elections are going to fix our country?


2. Do you acknowledge we cannot win elections with the massive voter fraud?



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1) Yes, if voter fraud is dealt with.

2) NO

Wingy here,

1.  Elections are the only means we have right now to fix the probems in this country; however, we HAVE to due the homework on all the candidates we are electing.  The 2014 election will . be important to oust the Dems and RINOS from DC and replace them with real grass roots electees.


2.  Yes, to this one...that is why we need to involve ourselves in the election process and watch out for the "community organizers" and trip them up when we find them...

No  This country is divided beyond repair


Yes   the only answer to correct this is to require real ID- Go back to the Founders requirement, only property owners and Tax Payers can vote. No skin in the game =no vote

This would be a real mechanism to change the country back. It would be a wake-up call, sooner or later, to the clowns who have gotten by, by sponging off the working middle/upper class. Let some honest definitions come back into our language. Losers are losers. Should have learned something in school. Too damn bad. Go ask your family for help, or the church. The problem is no part of federal government is going to ever call for this. Their skin in the game is only to become millionaires. Governors could stop a lot of things. But is going to take these groups to make real changes happen:

1  county sheriffs
2  governors
3  unified churches
4  3rd party based on God, founding principles, and Constitution
5  we the people------and this is not in any order. It has to be that all of these groups just get loud, visible, and start calling it what it is: Lies, fraud, deception, nonsense, immoral, unAmerican, treasonous, impeachment suitable, etc. We need to demand immediate action. Enough with a legal system that just plays at being a system of justice. We need to learn our definitions and words, and use the founder's definitions. For example: Courts used to be called "courts of justice--that was when the jury decided not only the facts of the case, but whether the law was a just law. If they ruled the law was unjust, the person was acquitted. Then the left changed the definition to court of law. Now it's just called court. So we have taken the justice out of the court system.

Originally, any brand of the government utilzed their documented power to impeach any of the other branches (legislative, executive, and judcial), and we must return to this type of activism and accountability. A lecture I attended recently, the pastor said that we should institute impeachment proceedings every two years for the SCOTUS, for whomever was doing the worst job of following the constitution. We really have got to return to original writings to learn how much we have lost, just by taking it all for granted, and by laziness, or just not finding time to be citizen activists. We are going to have to do something physical, march, shut down Congress, something. I hope you all know it. It is not going to happen without action.

First, we have to have someone trustworthy enough to elect.  Electing politicians is no better than a rigged beauty contest these days.  Between the massive campaign contributions, lack of vetting candidates fairly with over the top media mudslinging, lack of voter ID, the phony vote counting process by not counting all of the votes or voting miscounts, and no one in power willing to address these isues... we are screwed.  So, 1.) No.,  2.) Yes.

1. Do you think elections are going to fix our country?

Not by themselves without other methods employed!

2. Do you acknowledge we cannot win elections with the massive voter fraud?

It is obvious that we can not as we did not and there were no objections before confirmation in this past POTUS fraud that they called an election.

1. No,

2. Yes

With all the fraud in the elections taking place no the problems facing our country will ever be fixed with another election.

As long as the people in office don't care about the fraud taking place, we will never win another election, they are too busy putting "their" people in office to correct the fraud.

I'm a bit late to this party,but heregoes :


1.)  Elections 'COULD' fix some of our problems ! BUT in reality, I do not think it will happen. There are just too many underlaying problems. We NEED to fix the 'Basic Problems' first.  That means a return to our 'Maker's' teachings and self reliance. Removal of the state ( Federal Gov. ), and return to the people of our public schooling.  Removal of the state( Federal and State ) from charity ( entitlements). Then we may be able to re-educate the sheeple into seeing the causes of our problems, both economic and social.

2.) With the massve 'voter fraud' that has been rampant in the last few elections,the 'will of the peope' will not be reflected. Even if we can get valid,verifiable REGISTERED / ELLIGABLE voter identification in each state, at each polling place and an impartial count of that vote, we will not see functional change until the 'sheeple' have been re-educated and given the oppertunity to know the unbiased truth / facts ( see #1 above ).

1. No

2. Yes

Stalin of the USSR who said, "It is enough that people know there
was an election. The people who cast the vote decide nothing. The people who
count the votes decide everything.

NO - elections will not fix it unless and until we can minimize the effect of voter fraud

YES - agreed

1)No, 2. yes



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