Can the people turn this country around without unifying in that effort?
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Permalink Reply by Marianne Hart on February 19, 2012 at 9:00pm Well said Juanita!
Permalink Reply by Juanita B Padberg on February 19, 2012 at 9:13pm Thank you Marianne.
One of the surest signs of an amateur is the kind of hypersensitivity that evidences itself in lashing out at someone calling for professional effort and taking that as an personal attack. I didn't say anyone in particular is an amateur. I called for more diligent effort on the part of everyone, including myself. I did point out that proponents of repealing the 17th generally are misguided, most likely because they didn't make a sufficient effort to understand the issues involved. I am always willing to listen to their evidence that they do understand, but don't repeat the usual arguments that populate the Internet, because I am thoroughly familiar with them, and they are all misguided.
I have an amendment that would do far more to fix the problem of senatorial representation than the design that the 17th ended. How about reading it before arguing further?
Permalink Reply by Harry Riley on February 20, 2012 at 8:42am Jon......Your use of the term "amateur" with regard to politics and the 17th amendment in particular implies you are the superior and you have the correct approach. When a politician indicates superiority, looks down the nose at "we the people", then I take offense. We've had a belly-full of politicians telling us we don't understand......you might call it "hypersensitivity" but the more appropriate "we the people" term might be simply "pissed off", beyond description.
Permalink Reply by Juanita B Padberg on February 21, 2012 at 12:33am Thank you Harry! Well said!! Yes, I too am "pissed off" beyond description, as you stated.
Is there any serious chance that I will be elected? No. Or that anyone else will propose them? No. If I got elected and introduced the bills, is there any serious chance they would be adopted? Probably not, until the economy and then likely civilization itself collapses and people are finally willing to look at proposals like that. But someone has to at least prepare the solutions for consideration. We owe people a chance. That's all we can do.
Permalink Reply by Juanita B Padberg on February 21, 2012 at 12:36am That's why we are working at the State level to have our states NULLIFY the illegal "bills"!! WE HAVE A CHANCE TO WIN AT THAT!!!
Permalink Reply by Juanita B Padberg on February 21, 2012 at 12:38am Again, Stingray, you've spoken the truth!!! We could use another amateur like him.
Permalink Reply by GRINGO LUCERO on February 20, 2012 at 11:59am Thanks STING": Now that's better than WINDEX on that Pane of glass we are looking through. This Could NOT be More CRYSTAL CLEAR. With that you should have erased any possibility of any more ridiculous verbal badinage from that source.
“The "United States of America" is an invention of the federal government.” ...???
“The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,
When in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another,”
…so, wasn’t that Thomas Jefferson who took part in inventing The United States of America, in 1776?
Once we are united, we cannot be divided… division is UnConstitutional because that weakens We The People!!! in other words wherever we are, we must work in the common interests of The United States of America… The Founding Documents attempt to spell-out ALL people’s common values.
Permalink Reply by Occupant Occupant on February 25, 2012 at 6:19pm The Very Short Answer,for many positive legal reasons,& reasoning's,is:No.
This effort is focused on sacrifice to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic.
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