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Supremes asked: Who is 'natural born citizen?'

Decision whether Georgia case will be accepted expected in fall

Published: 4 hours ago

by Bob Unruh

  • Bob Unruh joined WND in 2006 after spending nearly three decades writing on a wide range of issues for several Upper Midwest newspapers and the Associated Press. Sports, tornadoes, homicidal survivalists, and legislative battles all fell within his bailiwick. His scenic photography has been used commercially, and he sometimes plays in a church worship band.

An announcement is expected sometime in the fall on whether the U.S. Supreme Court will decide just exactly who is a “natural born citizen” as required by the U.S. Constitution for all those who would be president.

Officials with the Liberty Legal Foundation confirmed they have filed an appeal of the ruling from the state Supreme Court in Georgia, and a decision by the nation’s highest court on whether it will accept the case is expected over the coming months.

It raises two questions, including whether states can be forced to accept any candidate from a political party for presentation on state ballots even when the candidates do not meet the required qualifications.

The other is the key, “Are all individuals born on U.S. soil Article II ‘natural born citizens,’ regardless of the citizenship of their parents?”

According to a statement from Van Irion, chief of Liberty Legal, the case that stems from a Georgia dispute “is the first to present the U.S. Supreme Court with a substantive ruling on the definition of natural born citizen under the Constitution.”

“All other cases to reach the Supreme Court on this issue had been dismissed on purely procedural grounds. Liberty Legal Foundation’s case is an appeal from the Georgia courts’ substantive ruling,” he explained. “The Georgia courts refused to dismiss our case based upon procedural grounds. The Georgia courts reached the substantive issue, what is a natural born citizen.

“They ruled incorrectly, but that ruling does allow us to ask the U.S. Supreme Court to address the definition of natural born citizen, instead of simply addressing a procedural issue,” the explanation said.

“Now the U.S. Supreme Court has an opportunity to address the definition of natural born citizen, our substantive issue.”

“The petitioners’ challenge in Georgia state court was based upon an uncontested fact: that the respondent’s father was not a U.S. citizen; and upon the legal conclusion that a person must have two U.S. citizen parents to be a natural born citizen under Article II of the U.S. Constitution,” the brief to the high court explains. “The Georgia Office of State Administrative Hearings and Secretary of State ruled that any person born on U.S. soil is a ‘natural born citizen’ as that term is use[d] in Article II of the U.S. Constitution, regardless of the citizenship of the person’s parents.”

But the brief argues that conclusion turns states’ rights on their head, because it would allow a political party to demand anyone be on a state election ballot, regardless of what the election code might require.

In Georgia, the law requires, “Every candidate for federal and state office … shall meet the constitutional and statutory qualifications for holding the office being sought.”

But the state’s ability to require candidates be qualified is separate from the right of political parties to choose their own candidates, the case argues.

“The right to associate easily coexists with the state’s right to determine the manner of choosing its presidential electors,” the brief argues. “Georgia code does not interfere with the autonomy of any political party’s internal decision making because it does not prohibit the parties from submitting any name…

“The political parties are free to submit Saddam Hussein or Mickey Mouse… However, Georgia is not required to accept such submissions and waste taxpayer money on ballots for such candidates.”

Under the state rulings, “the political parties could choose to list former Presidents George Bush and Bill Clinton as candidates for the presidential primary, despite the fact that both President Bush and President Clinton are disqualified to run for that office gain by the 22nd Amendment. … Upon such listing the state of Georgia would have no choice but to place these candidates’ names on its ballots.”

The brief also argues the key question about just exactly who is a “natural born citizen,” which not only could impact the Obama campaign but undoubtedly campaigns of future candidates.

The state decision did not follow the U.S. Supreme Court’s “Minor” definition of natural-born citizen, which is “binding precedent because the court’s definition was necessary to reach its holding. … Unless and until this court revisits this issue, the Minor court’s definition is binding.”

That ruling said a “natural born citizen” was the product of two citizen parents, under which Obama would be disqualified because of his father’s status as a foreign national visiting the U.S. as a student.

The high court in Minor said, “It was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.”

The case was brought on behalf of David Welden, Carl Swensson and Kevin Richard Powell. Handling it are Irion of Liberty Legal Foundation and Mark Hatfield of Waycross, Ga.

Officials with the Article 2 SuperPAC, who have been involved the case, said it originated when the plaintiffs challenged Obama’s candidacy on the ballot before Michael Malihi, an administrative judge who decided without evidence from Obama or his lawyer that he was eligible for the office and his name could appear on the Georgia ballot in 2012.

At the hearing level, Malihi simply threw out all of the evidence and ruled in favor of Obama, who, along with his lawyer, snubbed the hearing and refused to appear at all.

An intermediate court followed suit. Then the state Supreme Court dodged the question.

The plaintiffs had argued before Malihi regarding Obama’s alleged failure to qualify as a “natural-born citizen” as required by the U.S. Constitution for presidents. Obama has admitted in his writings his father never was a U.S. citizen, and attorneys argued that the understanding of the Founders, and a subsequent Supreme Court ruling, defines natural-born citizen as the offspring of two citizens of the country at the time of the birth.

Malihi had been charged with responding to the complaints brought over Obama’s candidacy under a state law that requires “every candidate for federal” office who is certified by the state executive committees of a political party or who files a notice of candidacy “shall meet the constitutional and statutory qualifications for holding the office being sought.”

Of all the eligibility cases to be submitted to the U.S. Supreme Court, the justices have refused to consider any.

In fact, one justice admitted the court is “avoiding” the Obama issue. Justice Clarence Thomas appeared before a U.S. House subcommittee when the issue arose.

Subcommittee Chairman Rep. Jose Serrano, D-N.Y., raised the issue amid a discussion on racial diversity in the judiciary.

“I’m still waiting for the [court decision] on whether or not a Puerto Rican can run for president of the United States,” said Serrano, who was born in the island territory. “That’s another issue.”

Yet after Serrano questioned him on whether or not the land’s highest court would be well-served by a justice who had never been a judge, Thomas not only answered in the affirmative but also hinted that Serrano would be better off seeking a seat in the Supreme Court than a chair in the Oval Office.

“I’m glad to hear that you don’t think there has to be a judge on the court,” said Serrano, “because I’m not a judge; I’ve never been a judge.”

“And you don’t have to be born in the United States,” said Thomas, referring to the Constitution, which requires the president to be a natural-born citizen but has no such requirement for a Supreme Court justice, “so you never have to answer that question.”

“Oh really?” asked Serrano. “So you haven’t answered the one about whether I can serve as president, but you answer this one?”

“We’re evading that one,” answered Thomas, referring to questions of presidential eligibility and prompting laughter in the chamber. “We’re giving you another option.”

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  • Corruption plain and simple.

  • Justice goes to the highest bidder.

  • No doubt Clarence Thomas, and the Honorable Alito will defend our Constitution--as to the others  -- given Roberts support of Obama Care. and his earlier defense in Romer v. Evans(where he refused to defend the Constitution) I cannot expect him to defend the Constitution. Kennedy is always a crap shoot. Ginsburg a Communist , As probably equally true of the Wise Latina and the Harvard Keg. And then there is the good ol' boy who once told a captive audience enrolled in law school that his fellows on the Court were wrong to thing the history of the  law--or the context in which it was written cannot be used to suggest their intent.No Justice is fit for the Trust who has said that our Constitution ought be weighed against the laws and mores of foreign systems . No Justice is worthy of the Office they are entrusted if they believe in a Living Constitution that has no meaning unless some judge  gives it such. For they are Not under the same written Constitution they swear or affirm intent to defend.

    • It's more than sad when the SCOTUS can be focused on every excuse rather than point the Constitution as their bedrock guide.

  • William,  pulled  out  the  law-book,  I  pray  you  dusted  it  off..!! Thank  you  very  well  done..!

  • Mr.Reade-- -T'anks. Your reply is an education to this ignorant son. I've had a sense things were wrong but am ignorant and you have brought light into a house divided by our own ignorance.T'anks.

  • You make it clear William. There is ample opportunity to prosecute the Administration and Congress for "Nonfeasance" but with a SCOTUS so preoccupied with everything but the US Constitution, the likelihood is nil to none.  "We the people" need a "servant status" Congress and Administration.  Also, need to stop the lifetime appointments of judges. November approaches......will America recognize the threat on our door-step??  God help us, I pray so.

  • Mike.......there are several posts that have been added on PFA regarding "natural born citizen".  I suggest you review the archives as your definition misses the mark. 

  • This may get your hopes up, a little, but if you stop and think IF the SCOTUS even hears this case and makes the correct determination it will happen after the election is over and we will face the same problems as before, if the illegal is re-elected. Remember the courts refusal to hear so many cases due to lack of standing in regards to the o's illegal status. There was even one case that I remember that the court said it was to late because he was already inaugurated. At least if it is heard and the correct decision made, which I have doubts about, it will keep this type thing from happening in the future, if we have one. I read the Minor decision and in it the court actually avoided the natural born question saying that it was not relevant to the the case or something to that effect.

  • Michael,

    Please do us all a sincere favor Brother.......turn off THE CAPS LOCK on your keyboard.  We ALL can make better sense of your argument when you EFFECTIVELY use the caps lock to emphasize your tone.  Traditionally, using ALL CAPS means you are doing nothing but yelling or suffering from Terrets.......which I highly doubt that you are doing.  So PLEASE!!! PLEASE!!! consider opining in a normal tone and emphasize where you feel it needs emphasis......Love ya Bro!

     

    Semper Vigilo, Fortis, Paratus et Fidelis

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