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THIS IS AN URGENT CALL FOR IMMEDIATE ACTION; RED FLAG LAWS WORSE THAN YOU THINK

All,
I have supported President Trump without qualification before and during his presidency. I support him now but not on "Red Flag" gun confiscation.

This issue has been on my mind for some time. Today, Chuck Baldwin's message has added to my worries of losing my constitutional rights and Pastor Baldwin outlines the many dangers associated with "Red Flag" laws and my freedom.

I fought out of the fox-hole for my and your Constitutional Rights and I won't support a law that gives some whiny individual that might not like me, fabricate some story about my behavior, that might cause a gestapo type door busting raid on my home in the middle of the night. It is too dangerous for me not to speak up.

I urge all to read Pastor Baldwin's message, call your Senators and Representative in Washington, D.C. and oppose any type "Red Flag" law(s) that ignores my constitutional right, locks me up, and makes me prove my innocence. Don't think this couldn't happen!!!

I'm disappointed in President Trump in taking a position that appears to support "Red Flag" legislation...........don't wait for someone else to take action, we must individually take action and urge all our friends to do the same. We are dangerously close to losing a major constitutional right if we sit back and "let someone else do it".

Call your US Senators and Representative at your earliest opportunity.....and don't stop with one call. Call many times. God help us.

Harry Riley

“Red Flag” Gun Confiscation Laws Are Even Worse Than You Think

By Chuck Baldwin 
August 22, 2019

 

As I said in this column last week, Republicans Donald Trump, Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham and Marco Rubio are joining forces with liberal Democrats to soon enact “red flag” gun confiscation laws. I also reported on the push for the enactment of other gun control measures such as universal background checks being promoted on Capitol Hill and by the White House here.

Yes, Donald Trump is calling for “red flag” gun confiscation laws and universal background checks. Trump said, “I have an appetite for background checks. We’re going to be doing background checks. We’re going to be filling in . . . the loopholes.” 

I urge readers to watch my 8-minute video exposing Donald Trump’s betrayal of his promise to protect the 2nd Amendment and share it with as many of your friends as you can. If we don’t convince our U.S. senators to reject these egregious gun control measures, THEY WILL BE PASSED, AND TRUMP WILL SIGN THEM INTO LAW. We have about two or three weeks to convince our senators to reject these new gun control laws. That’s it.

Please watch the video and share it with everyone you can.

If law-abiding gun owners don’t call their U.S. senators en masse, and I mean posthaste, you are very likely to wake up one morning around 4am to the sound of a SWAT team breaking down your door to confiscate your guns, prepared to kill you or any member of your family who resists. Why? Perhaps because a gun-hating neighbor hates you having guns or a relative doesn’t like you and is looking for any way to “teach you a lesson” or your ex-spouse is looking for any way to “get even” with you or an anti-gun cop with a grudge wants to send a political message or a family doctor or school teacher overheard one of your children talk about how many guns daddy has and became alarmed, etc., ad infinitum.

Plus, the FBI has just recently stated that if you believe in “conspiracy theories,” you are a “domestic terrorist threat.” That statement is from an FBI intelligence bulletin from the bureau’s Phoenix field office, dated May 30, 2019. That FBI designation alone could very easily precipitate a “red flag” gun confiscation order being rendered against you.

And Donald Trump himself recently demonstrated how dangerous “red flag” laws are. In a tweet on August 13, President Trump said,

Would Chris Cuomo be given a Red Flag for his recent rant? Filthy language and a total loss of control. He shouldn’t be allowed to have any weapon. He’s nuts!

Are you paying attention? Donald Trump was threatening to use a “red flag” law to authorize police agencies to take away an American citizen’s Natural God-given right of self-defense simply because Trump didn’t like what the citizen said—about him.

Folks, don’t you see? Those in authority can use “red flag” gun confiscation laws against ANYONE they want and for ANY REASON they want.

In other words, there doesn’t have to be a reason. Under “red flag” laws, all it takes for police to come and seize your guns is for someone to make a “red flag” accusation against you. That’s it. And, yes, it really IS that easy.

“Red flag” laws not only eviscerate the 2nd Amendment, but the 1st Amendment, 4th Amendment, 5th Amendment, 6th Amendment, 7th Amendment and 8th Amendment.

The enforcement of “red flag” laws is actually much worse than you think, so says Donald Kilmer, an attorney who has litigated and defended against many state and federal gun charges.

Everyone is debating “red flag” laws like they’re some new thing, but California has had variations of them for decades. We call them domestic violence restraining orders, civil harassment restraining orders, workplace restraining orders, elder abuse restraining orders, mental health seizures and prohibition orders, and, more recently, gun violence restraining orders.

They’re all meant to disarm dangerous people — but they’re all fundamentally flawed.

None of these red flag laws would have prevented recent mass shootings. And in my 23 years practicing law in the heart of Silicon Valley, I have litigated dozens of these cases. I’ve seen firsthand the practical enforcement problems that emerge in real-life cases.

These kinds of court orders are usually obtained from a judge ex parte. That’s fancy Latin for: The judge only hears one side of the story, it is not your side, and you may not even know about it until after the fact. Then they immediately strip you of fundamental constitutional rights for the duration of the orders. You’ll get your “full due process” hearing, but not until later.

And any violation of these orders is separately punishable as a crime. So even if you are innocent of the underlying conduct that inspired the “red flag” order, if you violate the order pending your hearing, you can still face criminal charges.

That kind of situation is ripe for danger. In one situation in Baltimore, police ended up shooting [and killing] a man when they came to collect his guns under a “red flag” law.

In one case in Southern California, a client had to pay a $1,000 ransom, that was reduced from an initial “offer” of $4,000, to get his 50-gun collection back.

Experienced counsel to defend you in a “due process” hearing will run about $15,000 in fees. If you lose and want to appeal, expect to spend another $25,000 to $100,000 in fees and costs. And even with all of that, you might still lose.

To win these hearings, you have to refute an allegation that you pose a danger to yourself or others where a judge already issued a temporary ex parte order that concluded you were already a danger. Many judges will likely err on the side of caution, and against your rights.

As a practical matter, if the government’s interest is in separating a potentially-dangerous person from guns, it makes no sense to leave other guns that belong to family members in the home. So, if you live with someone that gets a red flag order issued against them, then you and others living in the same home risk losing your guns, too.

Even if you win, the judge isn’t going to just hand your guns back to you at the end of the hearing. It’s probably a good idea to “lawyer up” just to go through the process of recovering your guns, so you don’t go to jail or prison for accidentally breaking an obscure firearm law or regulation. You wouldn’t want to set off a red flag.

Law-abiding gun owners better get a big whiff of reality SOON and realize that if they are going to maintain the right to keep and bear arms much longer, THEY must step up to the plate and defend that right—and I mean RIGHT NOW.

The NRA is compromised and is in complete disarray and is offering NO HELP. Donald Trump has already proven he has ZERO fidelity to the 2nd Amendment (or to the rest of the Constitution and Bill of Rights, for that matter). Most Christians and conservatives are in a state of deep denial and hibernation, believing that their yellow-haired savior would never betray them, in spite of the fact that he has already betrayed them—repeatedly.

It is up to individual freedomists and gun owners who are willing to fight for their right to keep and bear arms to fend off this assault against our 2nd Amendment liberties. Reinforcements are not coming; it is up to YOU AND ME. 

How much does the 2nd Amendment mean to you? Each of us will determine the answer to that question by what we do or do not do RIGHT NOW. 

P.S. I, again, URGE readers to watch my 8-minute video regarding Trump’s betrayal of the 2nd Amendment and the push for the enactment of “red flag” gun confiscation laws and share it with everyone you can. In the video, I also include the phone numbers for both the White House and U.S. Senate, where you can call and voice your opposition.

P.P.S. Here is my video Open Letter To Our Legislator, Judges And Lawmen regarding “red flag” gun confiscation laws. Please watch it and share.

© Chuck Baldwin

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This is an important issue and we can discuss it here for weeks, but you need to call and or email the White House and let them know in a nice way that Red Flag laws are not the answer and not to fall for it.  It is best if you do both call and email.  I have talked to my reps and they said that they do read and heed, but it takes lot's of calls and email for them to wake up.  Below is for your convenience.

Thanks

Call 202-456-1111 or email: https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/

My Rep is a Democrat and has already stated he is in favor of red flag laws. Both of my Senators are also Socialists, Tim Kaine and Mark Warner, so I believe a call to the two scum is a waste of time. Trump should have never brought this up unless he was in favor of it and he has been talking to John McCain's bitch about it also, you know that gay Republican from S.C. Lindsey Graham, who has been pushing this for some time now. I'm going to put it bluntly, Donald J. Trump has out right lied to us and he is no better than any other politician in D.C., he now says he the "chosen one" (saw and heard him say it a few days ago on NBC Nightly News), the swamp is still crawling with the same old crap before he came into office, the 2019/ 2020 budget is bigger than any budget in the past and it has NO spending caps, we got a decent tax cut but that's been nullified by that budget and the Chinese tariffs are back firing. Short of a full out revolution America is on her death bed no matter who is elected in 2020.

Cheer up Lee, and quit watching NBC. Yes Trump said He is the chosen one,,,,,,,, but he didn't stop there like they are reporting, What he said was the he was the chosen one to deal with China right now.
The Left are masters at taking things out of context and only telling half the truth, they lie through omition.
As for any possible Red-Flag gun deals just think about something for a minute; What better way is there to get the Left-wing radicals all riled up and pushing gun controls than to chase  them all out into the open for everyone to see.??
Trump is punching their buttons big time and they are all falling for it hook-line-and-sinker.I don't think he is going to sign anything close to that.

We just have to call the White House and then wait an see.

Old Rooster  correct get them to expose themselves then we know who to vote out...

I used Yahoo account to get here, as  AOL knocks me off line within 3 seconds after I get to this site

Trump has been dealing with foreign countries for many years he is no rookie.

China has been taking advantage of the USA for many years..It is time to right the wrong .

It may sting a little for a short time but in the long haul we will prevail.

Reagan busted the USSR .... Trump will make China fold ,also pay attention to the up rising by the people in Hong Kong..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCrpSK5r9HY

Steve Bannon: New Film On Huawei—“Claws of the Red Dragon”, Hong Kong Protest & US China Trade War

Didn't mean it in a nasty way,and I don't follow the man blindly,but I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt.I'll take the offensive comment down.No need to be fighting with each other,the country has enough f-ing problems as it is.

Thank you sir. I'm finding it a bit more difficult to give him the benefit of the doubt (that budget he just signed is a main reason), that's why I'm here with a group of patriots I like and trust.

All the rules that are supposed to keep us all safe are no more to the left (democRATS ) than counting guns out of circulation. They don’t give a damn about PTSD or anything else. It’s just one more citizen who can’t own guns.
That is why they went slavering through the records of the VA, seeking to ban gun ownership from anyone who ever mentioned PTSD.

WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN evidence that these red-flag laws HAVE BEEN ABUSED. So what guarantees do we have THESE new ones being proposed, won’t ? Will anyone get punished for making false claims that cause someone to get his (or her) guns essentially confiscated ?  Based on how LITTLE punishment we ever see, towards ALL OTHER FAKERS/False claim makers.. I have little faith anything will get done here.

How easily will it be for someone to SCREW OTHERS OVER, with these laws??

THIS IS why red-flag laws should NOT be allowed…

I'm trying to learn how to make videos for Youtube.
See the new thread I just created on this if anyone is interested.

i am there with all of you 

my state NJ just put in red flag laws and boy you should hear people we are not alone

i pray the pres realizes on thing GUN OWNERS VOTE 

BUT I AGREE WE WILL BE IN A CIVIL WAR.  I WILL BE THERE W/YOU ALL.

San Francisco officials brand NRA a ‘domestic terrorist organization’

The San Francisco Board of Supervisors has passed a resolution declaring the National Rifle Association a “domestic terrorist organization” and urged the federal government to do the same – the latest escalation in the heated rhetoric from Democrats regarding the NRA in the wake of several deadly mass shootings.

The resolution, which passed Tuesday and says the U.S. is “plagued by an epidemic of gun violence,” accuses the NRA of using “its considerable wealth and organization strength to promote gun ownership and incite gun owners to acts of violence.”

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/san-francisco-board-brands-nra-a-d...

The next thing you know they will probably declare all American Veterans as domestic enemies and terrorists.

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