Penned By Jim ONeill Thursday, November 17, 2011
“The truth is that there is no compromise possible between Liberty and Tyranny. We have irreconcilable differences with the Progressives, and every attempt to compromise with them, always results in an incremental loss of our Liberty, not to mention our income. Perhaps it is time for a divorce.”—Dave Hunter “Why Live in a Salad Bowl”
A little over two years ago I wrote an article in which I discussed the idea of letting the liberal elements in America go their way, and conservatives go theirs. At the time I felt that it was not a good idea, and that maintaining the union was the best way to go, all things considered. Link
Recently Dave Hunter sent me an article that he wrote on the topic, and after considering his proposals, I found myself thinking “You know, this may be the way to go after all—sort of a Red-state/Blue-state separation—an amicable separation, instead of a civil war.”
It is no news that the United States of America is a parody of the free republic that it was designed to be. Our Godless, rudderless Ship of State has morphed into a ship of fools, mismanaged by a glib crew of brigands and cut-throats—barbarians in three-piece suits. American culture is a moral wasteland that has exchanged restraint and virtue for gluttony and greed.
The infiltration, infestation, and indoctrination of America’s culture by elements inimical to decency, truth, and honor, has been going on for so long that a sizable percentage of the American public is, in effect, treasonous. I do not consider them to be my fellow countrymen, or women. I find listening to them a “fingers across a chalkboard” experience, and would just as soon live on a different planet, let alone in a different country. Compare the typical OWS mob to the people found at your average Tea Party rally, and you will have an idea of the sort of ideological divide that I am talking about. Link Link
I cannot begin to tell you how sick I am of the duplicity, phoniness, greed, and incessant whining of the liberal element in America. I am more and more tempted every day to simply say “Fine—you can have your country to run, and we’ll have ours.”
As a model of what such a liberal utopia would look like, what better place to pick than someplace where the liberals have held the reins of power for decades, where the unions are king; where multiculturalism is the law of the land. America has such a place—Detroit, Michigan. I suggest that you check into the housing market in Detroit; check out the crime rate, drug use, corruption, graft, and all around general destruction of this once fine city. Link Link Link Link
What the liberals have done to Detroit they do most everywhere that they go. The only reason that each and every liberal enclave has not imploded under the weight of liberal stupidity, greed, and cupidity is the constant influx of revenue from the more conservative and responsible (and yes, honest) citizens in America. These responsible citizens are not deemed forthright and upstanding by the liberals; they are considered reactionary chumps and suckers—rubes to be alternately stroked, flattered, used, and discarded as the situation warrants.
As I have mentioned before in my articles, either God exists, or God does not exist. There is no half-way—God does not sort of exist,” or sort of not exist. This being the case, someone is very, very far off track, and deluded to the point of mental derangement. I should mention that the vast majority of atheists are liberal.
Seeing as how atheists are the ones who overwhelmingly tend to embrace such concepts and “realities” as relativism, chaos, nihilism, narcissism, polymorphous perversity, and moral ambiguity, there will be no awards given for correctly guessing who the deranged ones are here. I do not honestly know if I have the stomach for any further “up close and personal” dealings with lunatic liberals anymore (there is no lunatic “fringe”—all liberals are insane to one degree or another. At best they are myopically deluded and spiritually stunted). Perhaps, as Dave Hunter says, a “divorce” would be best.
The patriots in the Revolutionary War at least had an ocean separating them from the main force of their enemy. “We the people” have no such luxury—our enemies are firmly entrenched among us, and they will not miraculously become freed from their anti-American globalism and other liberal notions as the result of a conservative win in 2012, should we be blessed with such a result.
The times call for bold and innovative reforms—thinking outside of the box. The threats and troubles facing “we the people” are so dangerous, so numerous, and so multi-directional that radical conceptualizing must be the order of the day.
Some folks may say, wouldn’t it be less stressful to work within the system to change America? Not necessarily. In addition to a mass media, educational, and legal system that will need a massive attitude adjustment, there are any number of dug-in government bureaucrats, union leaders, and inside players who will fight tooth and nail to protect their various “kingdoms,” and meal tickets. There are ideological zealots and indoctrinated crazies who will throw all manner of wrenches into the works, and an army of “legal eagles” who will practice unceasing lawfare against any changes being made to the status quo.
James Francis Byrnes (1882-1972) knew a thing or two about power—he served as both a Representative, and as a Senator in the US Congress, and was also an Associate Supreme Court Justice, the Secretary of State, and Governor of South Carolina. As one who knew the lure and attraction of temporal power well, his words regarding the subject carry substantial gravitas: “Power intoxicates men. It is never voluntarily surrendered. It must be taken from them.” (Italics added) Link
All things considered, it might be more practical, and less cataclysmic, to separate America into liberal and conservative regions, than to attempt to fix a perhaps irreparably broken system. Of course conservatives, who comprise a substantial majority of the population, would receive the vast bulk of the land in such an arrangement. The details and particulars of the separation (referendums, etc.) can be worked out as the process moves along—but if such an undertaking is to be implemented, it should be undertaken soon. Time is not on our side.
Separating from a tyrannical US government is in truth no more radical than what the colonial revolutionaries did when they separated from the British government. Remember, they too had an enemy firmly entrenched in their country—Tories and British soldiers. They, also, had a populace that contained a sizable element that was clueless and/or apathetic to what was going on around them. I am not talking about covering totally new ground here. This sort of thing has happened before—right here in the good ol’ US of A.
Of course there would be a plethora of problems surrounding a venture as drastic as cutting loose from Washington DC—but think of the benefits! We could tell the liberals “Here—here is your own area—call it a state, a country, a utopia—call it what you will. You can pay OPEC as much as you want for their oil. Oh that’s right, you hate fossil fuels. Your Muslim buddies won’t like that, I suspect.”
“Heck, who cares, the thing is you can let in as many illegal foreigners as you want; invite all of Mexico to come if you like—Chinese, Muslims, whoever. The more the merrier, I say. You can go back to nature and bang on drums to your heart’s content. You can f—k your dog and marry a goat—it will be bliss. You really should go—go now. Oh, and you can leave any guns you might have with us—you will not have a need for such things any more, of course. Ta ta.”
“We the people” on the other hand will set up a free republic under God that will promote personal freedom and free enterprise—capitalism will be respected and encouraged. Energy independence will be a given, with new forms of energy welcomed as they become practical. The environment will be conserved in a responsible manner, but humanity, not animals, will be the stewards of nature. Rules of law will be cut back, but the laws that remain will be honored—the Decalogue, or Ten Commandments, will hold pride of place.
We have the blueprints for such an undertaking—the Declaration of Independence, US Constitution, and Bill of Rights—as I said before, this isn’t exactly untrodden ground. The Founding Framers did it before us, and with God’s grace we can do it again.
One thing that any new republic will have a special need for, however, is a well defended border. In short order, people from the new liberal utopias will be clamoring at the gates for entrance—sure as the sun rises in the morning.
After mulling over the idea of separating America into conservative and liberal areas, what do I think? To be honest, I don’t know. Although I would not (yet) call myself a proponent of dividing up and remaking the United States, I no longer dismiss the notion out of hand. I’m thinking about it—seriously.
Born in June of 1951 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Jim O’Neill (constitutionalwrites.com) proudly served in the U.S. Navy from 1970-1974 in both UDT-21 (Underwater Demolition Team) and SEAL Team Two. A member of MENSA, he worked as a commercial diver in the waters off Scotland, India, and the United States. In 1998 while attending the University of South Florida as a journalism student, O’Neill won “First Place” in the “Carol Burnett/University of Hawaii AEJMC Research in Journalism Ethics Award.” The annual contest was set up by Carol Burnett with the money she won from successfully suing the National Enquirer for libel.
Jim can be reached at: firstname.lastname@example.org
its too late...they are already in control, it is going to have to get ugly for things to change.
The problem with telling them to leave, is that, we have been "telling" them things for a long time, but they don't listen. Instead, they use coercion and force to drive us where they want. So, coercion and force is the only method that will work to drive them out of here. That means war. Whether we divide, or drive them out of the country, it means the use of force. Force is the only method we have left. They, the D.C. idiots, know that. That's why they passed the NDAA, and other legislation that will put us in jail if we show any signs of not cooperating with their program.
It's us that need to get a grip on the reality of what's needed. The Founding Fathers had a wonderful understanding of the type of psychopaths that take control like this. They had one choice, and only one choice to make to break free. You know what that choice was. I'm waiting for a majority of citizens to come to this reality and prepare.
This is a horrible idea! I respect the author's honesty in acknowledging that he himself isn't sure.
The United States is a union. "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." I.N.D.I.V.I.S.I.B.L.E. ONE NATION!!
Our Founding Fathers would roll over in their graves if they thought that this idea was even being entertained by anyone today. They labored feverishly and diligently to form a "more perfect Union". The Constitution will serve none other.
Look at history. Wherever breakups have occurred, the former country ceases to exist. When the Soviet Union was dissolved, the area was weakened. The breakup of the Balkan states has changed the European landscape. If the USA were to be split up, there would no longer be a United States of America.
Who would there be to say that it could not splinter into more than two sections? There would be serious infighting on American soil, and that would make us vulnerable to takeover by our avowed enemies. Who would provide for a unified national defense?
"United you stand; divided you fall." The Bible says, "A house divided against itself cannot stand."
Such a thing would be a disaster and the sure demise of this country of freedom and liberty. We have our faults and there is a great struggle going on, but the answer is not to divide us.
I just read today some remarks by a former KGB agent who said that one of the surest ways to destroy a nation is to divide it into sections. That is exactly what Russia and our other enemies would love to have us do. Why would we want to play into their hands?
(Respectfully) you better take a look at the real world out there. I was with Col. Riley in DC on Veteran's Day. That's exactly what we got from our "government"; "the finger". There isn't any turning back at this point. The lid is going to blow and we either fight for what we know is right or we surrender. It's beyond the point of "fixing". The chasm is to great.
You say "Such a thing would be a disaster and the sure demise of this country of freedom and liberty." I say; it will be a disaster for a part of the country...the part that we let the libs keep. Our part will bounce back under The Constitution and Rule of Law.
Personally I say...never surrender...never.
Ken, you are absolutely right.
Caroline........I share your fears. Unfortunately what you state in your last paragraph is exactly what's happening in America now......we're dividing into multiculturalism. Muslim communities, Hispanic communities, liberal States, illegals everywhere, sanctuary cities even States.........we're destructing from within........all we have to do is look around the world....Middle East, Baltics........all fighting each other because they're divided amoung certain lines...it's the same picture developing in America...
As a military combat man, the last thing I want to see is the chaos of revolution...I know the consequences. We may have to do it or surrender.
"As a military combat man, the last thing I want to see is the chaos of revolution...I know the consequences. We may have to do it or surrender."
reply: Harry, I think we have already surrendered. What I see is a citizenry who is paralysed by the final comprehension that we've been fully taken over already without a shot being fired. Even those who are fully informed of the situation are so paralysed that they can DO nothing.
Sandy......no we have not surrendered but you are correct...we're paralysed at the moment. What we are looking and praying for is a leader with the ability and courage to step forward. "We the people" will raise up and be his "authority" to take the fight toward constitutional restoration and justice for the criminals in our current government and society.
Pull your head out of the sand.......we are a house divided against itself and we are no longer the vision of the founders. Far from it! We live in a police state, freedom, liberty and justice for all ...........gone! What do you mean would be a disaster. What do you call a bankrupt nation, morally, economically, judicially and spiritually, led by an ineligible tyrant. A teleprompter implanted effeminate quasi-human who has taken prevarication to heretofore unknown levels of sleaze. We have come to a crossroads, the time for change has long past and we, the legitimate owners of America, have been relegated to serfdom. A revolt is coming as true patriots, the majority of Americans, arm themselves and make preparation for the inevitable. Gun and ammo sales were up 11% in 2011 after records the previous few years, hmm............! Our avowed enemies live in America.....our government, the 35 islamic terrorist training camps given cart blanche to prepare on our soil, while Christians are demonized daily. One tenth of one percent of our population, the religion of hate, gets a pass, plots against us as the Communist Dept. of Homeland Offense classifies veterans, active duty military, tea party folks, Christians, adherents to the second amendment, the Constitution in general, pro-life proponents,etc. as terrorists........right! But the real islamic terrorists and the criminal illegal aliens are given a pass. Caroline you need a reality check! I don't know about you but I, as have others on this site, served in the military. Many of us in a time of war. Our oath is inalienable, it is holy and it is forever, a call to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies both foreign and DOMESTIC! The number one enemy of the people is the greatest criminal government in our nation's history. Better off divided then dumped into the dustbin of history!
Oh, and by the way our founding fathers would be rolling in their sacred graves today if they saw what has happened to the grand experiment. They would once again cry out for liberty, for freedom and justice so dearly fought for. They would harken the grandeur displayed in the hallowed words of Thomas Paine and his sunshine patriot screed. Instead, our government has devolved into an ignominious state as all the world scratch their collective heads, wondering what happened to that land of the free and the home of the brave! To paraphrase Jefferson in one of his prescient comments, "All that is needed for tyranny to gain a foothold is for men of good conscience to remain silent."
I live another day to fight the good fight and with my last breath hold my nation's flag on high as I shout.......DON'T TREAD ON ME!
Hard to say it any better that your observations Al........send it to your newspaper.......
Al Beriat and others,
Hey, wait a minute! I have never said that revolution may not be necessary. The way I read the tone of the writer's article is that there would be some orderly division of the country's land mass and assets to allow for conservatives and progressives to be able to live together, each in their own section.
Yes, I agree, that eventually there will probably be some sort of civil war, but, believe me, with all due respect to the many patriots here who have faithfully served our country via the military and in other ways, we need to not look upon a revolution as the answer to bring back liberty and prosperity, or even to restore us to constitutional principles. Let me tell you why.
This country was birthed under Judeo-Christian principles and our founders were mostly men of faith. We have vastly departed from those principles and our national sins are very great. Without repentance before a holy God, His help will not be forthcoming as it was in the American Revolution. Take a look at what happened in France, which had become godless. When the French Revolution occurred, the outcome was vastly different than ours. In fact, those in revolt became more treacherous than those they sought to overthrow.
Those who refuse to learn from the lessons of history are bound to repeat them.
I am an elderly lady of 78 years of age and have seen some history. I grew up in a vastly different America than we have today. I remember well WWII and the untold Americans who endured terrible hardships and made the ultimate sacrifice for our freedoms. Just recently I read some personal testimonies of those few who survived the Bataan Death March. It has had a profound impact upon me. Of course, there have been multitudes of brave men and women who have helped to keep us free during many wars. I have a great deal of respect and thanks for all veterans and active service folks.
If the time comes when a military fight has to be waged on U.S. soil, I know there are many, many patriot Americans, some of whom post here, who will take the battle to the enemy. Thanks for your dedication.
Respectfully,Caroline,that piece Al Berlat just wrote is right on.But,no,
there is no way to divide the land,there are some die-hard American
conservatives that own land in the most libbo of states that has been in their
families for generations,they will not walk away without a fight,so,yes,what
The coming conflict is inevitable,but it will be ugly.
MY Mom is EIGHTY-SEVEN years old,and worked as a 17-year old in an
aircraft factory in NJ during WW2,You,respectfully,were 8 at the time.She
actually knew folks that never came back.
I was born in '61,Vietnam is about the same in My memory as WW 2 is in
Yours.I totally love what You just said,but I know My history,also.
"First they came for the Jews,and I said nothing"....