Dear Sirs,
Thank you for accepting me in your group. I have read the "Rules of Engagement" and have some questions about it. How do you ever propose to get anything changed by merely arriving at the said site? I mean all they have to do is wait us out, which they have done in every march that has been since who knows when. No objectives except to show up and do what? As a combat Marine grunt in Vietnam, who knows what combat is (three purple hearts), I don't understand the purpose of leaving your home state, driving, flying, hell any walking to the site just to be noticed by the media and those looking out their windows. I mean all the Administration has to do is simple wait us out. We will eventually run out of money, chow, and patience and little by little the march will dissolve into everyone leaving when they get fed up and realize that just being there isn't working at all. Their isn't enough hotels, motels, etc to handle a group the size you are estimating to be their. Say we don't go to hotels, motels, etc and sleep on the roads and byways, without doing some action to defuse the circumstances in Washington D C by this Administration disobeying the Constitution, to me just doesn't make much sense.. The mere fact that millions of true Americans show up for a rally and being waited out by the Administration just proves the same thing that has been proven over and over by others doing the same thing. I am not wanting to go to war again overseas for anyone. But, that being said, I will go to war right here in the United States to save my own country, even if I have to die doing it. All Administrations have been through this "show up" make a public announcement, stay as long as one can, then watch us leave, knowing we haven't accomplished a thing, other than show up in a peaceful demonstration. The Administration is simply going to put in their 8 hours of so called work and go home. Then the next day they will get up, eat breakfast, to go work, eat dinner, go home and eat supper plus get a good sleep during the night. Then again, maybe by being unlawful will give the Administration reason to call on "Marshal Law. It's a catch 22 game. This is only me thinking this, but I say, "Lead or get the hell out of my way!" There isn't enough cops in Washington DC to stop 1.8 Million people from doing what they want, nor can they summons enough Military personnel in time to stop anything. Look, I am willing to give up my snug little retirement money from over 20 years of Service, and over 24 years as a cop, plus the pay of both in retirement and give up my 100% disability I receive from the Government which is a good nifty sum of money as well.....and my LIFE if need be get "something" effective accomplished that will ensure freedom for this once Republic. Getting a sore butt from sitting on it at night time and being completely uncomfortable for 2, 3 days or even longer, only to accomplish "Nothing" other than the fact that I showed up isn't worth it to me. Unless you, who has looked in to this "gathering" can advise me (in Hillary's words) " what difference does it make" to be peaceful and no accomplish a thing other than wearing oneself out. If 1.8 million people really want to make a difference in a peaceful manner, then they need to read Christ word in 2 Chronicles 7:14 "If My People, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and PRAY, and seek My Face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from HEAVEN. and will forgive their sin, and will HEAL their LAND". We can ALL stay home and get on our knees and seriously "Intercede" in prayer with Christ to change this situation from what it is now, to what we desire it to me. I mean if Christ can die on the Cross for our sins, the least we can do is get on our knees for him. So please, explain to me which would be more effective, (1) Travel all the way to Washington and march in a peaceful manner and accomplish nothing, or (2) stay at home and get on our knees and pray to Christ and mean it from our hearts or (3) Go through those damn gates, place Mr. O under a federal law by placing him in an (EDO) emergency detention order (No arrest necessary or violence) and escorting him to a hospital to see a physician who can deem him a threat to himself and the American people (Anyone who has committed MURDER in Bengasi, ran guns to Mexico which caused the death of a Border Agent not to mention an small genocide to the Mexico people in his "Fast and Ferous" scheme & change the "Rules of Engagement" of our brave Military overseas, which has gotten scores of them killed and who thinks he can do anything because he is the President, like disregard the Constitution of the United States) is in fact a threat to himself, the American people in the States as well as overseas. According to the Constitution in Article II, Section 1, paragraph 5, which reads, "In case of the removal of the President from office, or his death, resignation, or "INABILITY TO DISCHARGE THE POWERS AND DUTIES OF THE SAID OFFICE, the same shall devolve on the Vice President, and Congress may by law provide for the case of removal, death, resignation or inability, both of the President and Vice President, declaring what officer shall then act as President, and such officer shall act accordingly, until the disability be removed or a President shall be elected". Impeachment is a great idea, however that takes to damn long. But EDO will take just 72 hours and become effective. By then, we can elect another leader as our President and there isn't a damn thing ANYONE can do about it!! I can't think of a more peaceful way of settle this issue. Let me know please what you think. Semper Fi, Robert
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Robert,
First let me say thank your for your military service and your time as a police officer. I am also a vet, 64-72, but was not in Nam. You certainly said a mouth full in your statements. Quite a few points are worth thinking and talking about. Hopefully this will not be the "same old" type event happening in DC. You are correct. They can outlast us. But I have a feeling if we make enough noise or whatever, things maybe different. If the situation does get out of hand and Martial Law (spelling) is enacted perhaps the non-three percenters and the regime's press corps in this country will take a little notice. Of course the media will never tell the truth about anything that will happen. We have to try................It is time for action..............no more rhetoric. I personally cannot take it any longer. And another thought on Martial Law. Where would you sooner have it declared..........in the cesspool of DC or your hometown? I like your thoughts on having POTUS (I cannot type his, its, name) EDO. If the Secret Service and Marine guard would stand down you may be able to pull it off. I'll volunteer to carry the EDO papers and go in with the first wave. Now one more thought as to 2 Chronicles 7:14. The chapter is about Yahweh speaking to Solomon as recorded by Ezra. These are not Christ's words. Although I am sure he would agree with them. We all must remember; Acts 10:34 says plainly: “God is not partial.” The Bible says that God “treats none with partiality." Bitch Obama (I spit) recently stated what they are doing is God's will. So how can God be on both sides? Just review history and the present. Our Civil War, WWI and countless other conflicts including the ever present war on terror. Everyone thinks God was/is on their side.......... NOT. I am going to DC for a week. I have rented a campground cabin (shack) for a week. Will our Operation American Spring make waves, I hope so. Will it make a difference, I do not know. But it is time to do something besides "wait until the Nov. elections." I have three ancestors who fought in the Revolutionary War and have two grandchildren. Someone has to make a stand now. I am the family member who is "expendable." So be it. I have had a good run. We owe it to our forefathers and our progeny to do something besides flap our jaws. I will now end my rant. Have a good one.
James Drummond:
Thank you for replying to my "Discussion" to you. I also stand "corrected" on my statement of Christ. Thank you for letting me know this. Thank you for your service 64-72. You did not miss anything in Vietnam, so don't feel guilty (if you do) about not going over there. 58,500 something men mostly, but a few ladies KIA as well. Listen, if I had known the real reason I went to Nam, I never would have gone. All of our wars have been fought because of lies and the selfish reasons behind it. Wars is a money making deal. A lot of people got rich over it. We were used, our lives didn't mean squat to the Elite in the Illuminati. The Rothchilds family who are very rich, financed the war in Germany. That is to say, the gave Hitler the funds to build his army. The Elite wanted German to take over all of Europe, but we Americans step in for the sake of the peoples freedom and to stop the genocide that was taking place. The Illuminati loves wars because it reduces the population as to their future plans. But not enough people died as they had planned. So the wars now are all based on depopulation of the countries as they have planned. Well, enough of that, let me get to your letter: I got news for you James, unless we are going to do something out of the ordinary in our March, it "will" be just like all the others because they did the same thing. Let me tell you a little story about the Feds and how they operate when that many people show up for a gig. Although you have given the Rules of Engagement which is peaceful, they WILL send their own people into the crowd to stir the crowd up. They practice this all the time in the "Real World Events" just like we are planning. We can be as peaceful as can be and it will take a few undercover Feds to cause serious trouble, fights, anger, what ever Mr. B tells them to do. All and any trouble will be focused on we, the people and that is what the rest of the world will see and think, Trust me on this one. As a cop, I had the privilege of observing the FBI and their tactics to upset Marchers and cause nothing but trouble. So you need to take "heed" to what I am advising you. You stated, "I personally can not take it any longer. That is exactly what the attitude should be when we March. But do not expect all of your Marching people to go their without some means of protection from the real troubled spots, because that is NOT going to happen. You have others in the March (hell, like me)who are also fed up with the way things are going. But a simple march without an agenda is, well it is going to be just another march on DC. If you are going to have this many people, you had better have a better plan than do what everyone else has done. You say, "But I have a feeling if we make enough noise or whatever, things maybe different:. What do you mean IF WE MAKE ENOUGH NOISE? What are we going to do, yell at them until our voices go out? No, no, no, you have better have a EXACT PLAN OF ATTACK and all of us are on the same page or, as I said before, it will be same oh thing. Marches are NOTHING new to Washington, they will be well prepared. We on the other hand are completely NEW to this type of thing. That is WHY you have got to have a better plan that just making noise, that's not going to get us anywhere. Do you actually believe that the Main Stream Media are going to show, tell, televise and cove what is going on? They will do exactly what this administration wants them to do. They are not going to let the rest of America see what the hell is going on.....they don't want to start a panic, they would rather keep things hussy-hussy so the rest of America will think everything is right on schedule and this Administration knows what they are doing. We CAN NOT wait until a new Presidency is voted in. That is not in Obama's game plan. You see James, it doesn't matter WHO is the new President because if they want to get elected, they had better play ball the way the Elite wants them to, or they won't have a chance for President. I personally think that Obama is going to call for "Marshal Law" during his last year as President. I don't think there will be another election because his plans are already made and it depends on whether he is successful in violation of our 2nd Amendment and starts confiscation of our weapons. The UN has already voted the 2nd Amendment out. Now Congress is very upset because simply because put THEY are the authority the President has to go through and Congress doesn't like Obama going over their heads. But if UN Troops, along with DHS and FEMA TROOPS get involved, the 2nd will be gone and we are going to have to make a decision, are we going to resist and FIGHT or allow our weapons to be taken. Most of your VETS will fight and many civilians who believe in the 2nd will fight. They question is are we going to wait until they bring the fight to us or are we going to take the fight to them? This EDO thing will work IF the right people are in with us. But simple civilian aren't going to get it done, it is going to take the GOP LEADERSHIP to and coordination to get it done, with the right people chosen ahead of time. I agree with you in the thought hat God is not partial, but he does take care of those "sheep" who follow his way of life. You seem to be well versed with the Bible. In it and I don't remember exactly where, but God allowed many of his leaders to go fight a war and helped them win. But at the same time he says, "If you live by the sword, you will die by the sword". James, my new friend, you have got to have a well working PLAN AND AGENDA on this March or it is going to be a waste of everybody's time. I will tell you this now, unless you have a real PLAN to stop this crap and let me know of it, I WILL NOT go on another "Patrol" just to play a waiting game and see who is the strongest to win. Hell, they are!! Let me know James. Semper Fi, Robert
Excellent Robert, I was attacked vehemently for saying basically the same thing on another conversation.
Robert, 1st off, I would like to thank you for your service. Your points are valid in the questions you are asking. As you seem to be a man of faith, I would ask you to have some faith, where this event is concerned. We are in a delicate situation in that we have been criticized for giving to much warning about this event happening, and thus, allowing them to prepare for us, and now we have many people that are asking for the plans to be made known to all. We had no choice in putting the event out there, to attract the numbers we need, but the actual plans that are being put in to place, are not going to be made public, at this stage, for the same reason. There are many people working behind the scenes, on ALL of our options, and they will be made known, when the time is right. I realize that is a lot to ask, but I hope that you being a Vet, can understand why it has to be that way.
I am a Vet also, and I would not be asking everyone I know, and love, to make the sacrifices needed to go to DC, if I didn't think we had an endgame. I also have seen the cost of War, and would not wish that on anyone, if there was ANY way to accomplish our goals peacefully, which I firmly believe there is.
Larry,
Thank you for this input. You have cleared up a few questions that had crossed my mind and it seems quite a few others. I had a feeling this is what the leadership had in mind. Makes perfect sense to me. I think it is time to move on now. I am behind this operation 100%.
Robert,
Sorry it took me so long to get back to you. I agree with most of what you state above. I also had questions and as far as I am concerned, Larry Malone's posting cleared up the fog for me. I'm going to DC come hell or high water. If it turns out we end up with another April 19th 1775 so be it. If it is a bust (I doubt it) so be it. This may sound familiar, "adapt---improvise." I can understand completely your statement "I will not go on another patrol just to play a waiting game." So................each individual must make his/her own decision on what they think is best for their own circumstance and pray it is a good decision. That is about it for me. Have a good one.