Constitutional Emergency

Please provide your thoughts......this is the place to share your personal observations on realistic efforts we can reasonably expect to pursue that will restore constitutional government, republic principles, and how we can do it?

I believe we have one more election, if that, to make a difference in installing representatives that are ready to give their lives for the US Constitution and serve in the US Congress.

Read what others have said and share your own........

Harry Riley

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I have pondered this question since yesterday... I'll clearly ditto some of the others regarding too many conservative groups... same efforts over and over... no division of labor to make things happen. With that said, I think there should be a concerted effort to draw all the groups together under one powerful umbrella in order to eliminate this duplication of effort. Additionally, within this large umbrella should be designated efforts... a communication czar group (citizensinaction???), a watchdog czar group (912project?), a militias czar group (wellregulated militias? oathkeepers?), a prosecutorial czar group (americangrandjury.org?) etc, etc, etc... you get the point. Additionally, I think there should be a group ASSIGNED to infiltrate the perps! We need to know what MoveOn is up to. Call it recon, if you will!

Within this structure there could be patriot teams ASSIGNED to certain tasks... it's THEIR thing to do. If you write well, get on the fax team and report back. If you're good at survival skills, build your dissemination of information and report back... if you're a stay at home mom, build the resistance/tea party teams and show up and report back.

This would be a monumental effort, but quite honestly, I can no longer deal with hundreds of e-mail messages daily. I get tons of news from satellite radio already, so much of it is redundant anyway. I think I've got around 2900 messages that need to be read or purged! "I think so too" is no action, Col. Riley, so I generally read what I need to without responding and move on. The bottom line: I'm tired of it all, so I think we need to coalesce around a pertinent, well-defined goal and move toward it, hopefully with the assistance of all the other conservative sites or at least those that will play. With that said, I think we should throw the full force of this conservative might toward the singular goal of getting the usurper out of office before he destroys everything we hold dear! It's pretty clear to me that these radicals are driving on regardless of our insistence that they stop. They couldn't possibly care less.

A second effort/goal could be focused toward our precincts and getting candidates that uphold our constitution and our values. Local teams working in conjunction with candidates of choice. We have power here not being accessed... note NY23 and that outcome isn't over yet.

And a third would be (and concurrent with the first) FIGHT THE BILLS! And FIGHT the APPOINTMENTS... large teams disseminating this info and then blast faxing and in-person resistance (where possible)... we can do this now... we need to do it en masse!

SO... calling on all the "Patriot Troops" right here in the good ole US of A... we can do this, but not moving in SO many directions at once. Cadres of "troops" with a specfic focus, even remaining in their own groups but with the VISION elaborated as to where we're going. We can "sister" alerts thru these sites and get this done. We just need a group with LOTS of time to begin it.

What say you?
Harry.....Many of us have busy lives, we do what we can when time allows. I read every email I receive from PFA and I do what I can. I support what PFA stands for and I hope the site continues to operate.
I read all your messages about this and would be of help if possible -- I really feel like an extra left foot, only my left foot hurts like blazes, and it does distract me somewhat. The right one isn't any different. I googled the problem and I think I found a cure -- I hope so.

I have left the Patriotic Resistance group. All they seemed to want to discuss is the "Rapture," a concoction drawn up from a good many prophecies of both the Old and the New Testament, all of which except one have been fulfilled. One is not supposed to combine prophecies to come up with a new one, but whoever came up with this Rapture theory did just that. Frankly, it sounds like a great idea to be flown out of the mess of end times on our very own wings, but I don't believe it and I do believe that it 1) is a dangerous theory, and 2) has nothing to do with Patriotism.

This, coupled with the black background and white letters was just too much, so I left.Somebody needs to tell those people that Patriotism entails a willingness to suffer and even to lose life, limb or property or all three. If they are being made cowards with this heavenly escape plan, I think they're in for a big surprise -- and in that case, they will be of no use.

I hang on to Constitutional Emergency and am also in Oath Keepers. I don't know that I can ever do anything for my country other than pray, but if something comes up that I can do, I will do it.
I expressed my concern about 6 weeks ago about the lack of cohesiveness between all the different patriotic groups and pretty much got dissed for my thoughts, except for Betz (and I don't know where she has disappeared to). As several have said in this discussion I think that we need an umbrella, or hub, group. One that links every patriotic group out there that we can get to join. Keep the smaller groups intact, but have a representative from each group join the hub group. There are so many different groups that it is overwhelming, and there seems to be starting up.

Make a plan of action. I think one of the most important things we could do right now is to have "One Main Monthly Rally", sponsored by a hub group, in each states capitol. For those of us that live in the colder climates we could have "funeral procession rallies" as they have had in Pinellas County in Florida, and the one that was held in the Detroit area not too long ago. We need to strive to make ourselves seen and heard. The small rallies should not be ended - they help keep up the momentum and address specific issues. But one big rally a month, with as many patriots as possible, should be a main goal.....let "them" know we are here and are not going away.

I also like this group for information....and on our Michigan site we can post things, such as rallies, to keep others informed. I too think Harry and Twana have done a great job, and I think their hearts are in the right place.
So Harry
Do you still think this site has little or no impact? t is sites like this that will draw the true patriots together in the event of a civil uprising. We may again have to pledge our lives, fortunes, and our sacred honor to save the way of life that so many have fought and died for. To steal a phrase, "GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH" OORAH
KevinZurrin
For those of you who don't know, Col. Allen West is running for U.S. Congressman Ron Klein's seat in Florida. Attached is his article regarding the shootings at Ft. Hood, Texas.

Please take a few minutes to read what he wrote.


“Tragedy at Ft Hood”
Lieutenant Colonel Allen B West (US Army, Ret)

This past Thursday 13 American Soldiers were killed and another 30 wounded at a horrific mass shooting at US Army installation, Ft Hood Texas. As I watched in horror and then anger I recalled my two years of final service in the Army as a Battalion Commander at Ft Hood, 2002-2004.

My wife and two daughters were stunned at the incident having lived on the post in family housing.

A military installation, whether it is Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine, or Coast Guard, is supposed to be a safe sanctuary for our Warriors and their families. It is intended to provide a home whereby our “Band of Brothers and Sisters” can find solace and bond beyond just the foxhole but as family units.

A military installation is supposed to be a place where our Warriors train for war, to serve and protect our Nation.

On Thursday, 5 November 2009 Ft Hood became a part of the battlefield in the war against Islamic totalitarianism and state sponsored terrorism.

There may be those who feel threatened by my words and would even recommend they not be uttered. To those individuals I say step aside because now is not the time for cowardice. Our Country has become so paralyzed by political correctness that we have allowed a vile and determined enemy to breach what should be the safest place in America, an Army post.

We have become so politically correct that our media is more concerned about the stress of the shooter, Major Nidal Malik Hasan. The misplaced benevolence intending to portray him as a victim is despicable. The fact that there are some who have now created an entire new classification called; “pre-virtual vicarious Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD)” is unconscionable.

This is not a “man caused disaster”. It is what it is, an Islamic jihadist attack.

We have seen this before in 2003 when a SGT Hasan of the 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault) threw hand grenades and opened fire into his Commanding Officer’s tent in Kuwait. We have seen the foiled attempt of Albanian Muslims who sought to attack Ft Dix, NJ. Recently we saw a young convert to Islam named Carlos Bledsoe travel to Yemen, receive terrorist training, and return to gun down two US Soldiers at a Little Rock, Arkansas Army recruiting station. We thwarted another Islamic terrorist plot in North Carolina which had US Marine Corps Base, Quantico as a target.

What have we done with all these prevalent trends? Nothing.

What we see are recalcitrant leaders who are refusing to confront the issue, Islamic terrorist infiltration into America, and possibly further into our Armed Services. Instead we have a multiculturalism and diversity syndrome on steroids.

Major Hasan should have never been transferred to Ft Hood, matter of fact he should have been Chaptered from the Army. His previous statements, poor evaluation reports, and the fact that the FBI had him under investigation for jihadist website posting should have been proof positive.

However, what we have is a typical liberal approach to find a victim, not the 13 and 30 Soldiers and Civilian, but rather the poor shooter. A shooter who we are told was a great American, who loved the Army and serving his Nation and the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) stating that his actions had nothing to do with religious belief.

We know that Major Hasan deliberately planned this episode; he did give away his possessions. He stood atop a table in the confined space of the Soldier Readiness Center shouting “Allahu Akhbar”, same chant as the 9-11 terrorists and those we fight against overseas in the Iraq and Afghanistan theaters of operation.

No one in leadership seems willing to sound the alarm for the American people; they are therefore complicit in any future attacks. Our Congress should suspend the insidious action to vote on a preposterous and unconstitutional healthcare bill and resolve the issue of “protecting the American people”.

The recent incidents in Dearborn Michigan, Boston Massachusetts, Dallas Texas, and Chicago Illinois should bear witness to the fact that we have an Islamic terrorism issue in America. And don’t have CAIR call me and try to issue a vanilla press statement; they are an illegitimate terrorist associated organization which should be disbanded.

We have Saudi Arabia funding close to 80% of the mosques in the United States, one right here in South Florida, Pompano Beach. Are we building churches and synagogues in Saudi Arabia? Are “Kaffirs” and “Infidels” allowed travel to Mecca?

So much for peaceful coexistence.

Saudi Arabia is sponsoring radical Imams who enter into our prisons and convert young men into a virulent Wahabbist ideology….one resulting in four individuals wanting to destroy synagogues in New York with plastic explosives. Thank God the explosives were dummy. They are sponsoring textbooks which present Islamic centric revisionist history in our schools.

We must recognize that there is an urgent need to separate the theo-political radical Islamic ideology out of our American society. We must begin to demand surveillance of suspected Imams and mosques that are spreading hate and preaching the overthrow of our Constitutional Republic……that speech is not protected under First Amendment, it is sedition and if done by an American treason.

There should not be some 30 Islamic terrorist training camps in America that has nothing to do with First Amendment, Freedom of Religion. The Saudis are not our friends and any American political figure who believes such is delusional.

When tolerance becomes a one way street it certainly leads to cultural suicide. We are on that street. Liberals cannot be trusted to defend our Republic, because their sympathies obviously lie with their perceived victim, Major Nidal Malik Hasan.

I make no apologies for these words, and anyone angered by them, please, go to Ft Hood and look into the eyes of the real victims. The tragedy at Ft Hood Texas did not have to happen. Consider now the feelings of those there and on every military installation in the world. Consider the feelings of the Warriors deployed into combat zones who now are concerned that their loved ones at home are in a combat zone.

Ft Hood suffered an Islamic jihadist attack, stop the denial, and realize a simple point.

The reality of your enemy must become your own.

Steadfast and Loyal,
Lieutenant Colonel Allen B West (US Army, Ret)
We have this at http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com/profiles/blogs/tragedy-at-fort-h... James.......has some 48 comments......
I love all the groups and sub-groups that I am in, but we are fragmented, as Emil stated. I am seeing this 3 days late and this is because I am just looking at the most recent emails. I use to have 100-300 emails, now it has been in the 2300-2500 and rising! I recently had it down to 1880, but now it is back up to 3100+!!!! I know everyone says to hit delete ALL, but I cannot bring myself to do it.

I even get emails from groups and sub-groups that I am not a member of and if I want to comment then I have to join another group. They all have very valuable information, but yeas there are strentgh in numbers. I don't even know how many groups/sub-groups I am in.
Harry-I have found that this sight has provided a very good forum to help organize different events, and to help express the thoughts on what is happening in this country. I know that there is alot of discouragement over our inability to influence these Traitors in DC. They have become actual enemiesto our Republic, Starting with Obama, and going right down the list. This is not a time to lose faith, because this may become the time for more drastic action. This site will help if that effort becomes necessary. You may not think that alot of people are participating, I think youll find that they are using the information on things that are organized here, and reading most of what is put on. I personally find it timely to post a comment once in awhile, not that I dont have alot to say-I dont feel the time is right to express myself. The solution might be to join with other sites, but it certainly is not a time to abandon it. I know that the 9/12 event would not have happened without this, and many other, sites like it. Just because they tried to ignore us, and ignore Citizens in Townhall meetings, doesnt invalidate the effectiveness. It just exposes the truth, that these elected officials are truly criminals in both mind and action. They put us on a list as Domestic Terrorists, I believe that I was covered by everyone of the criteria st forth in that document, I think that it is time to list all of these people that are truly traitors to The Constitution, and name them as enemies of these United States of America. Enough said. Denis
My thoughts are in a whirlwind everytime I read the daily newspaper. I like your site and its efforts to put a leash on Obama. On C-span last night Pelosi was the featured speaker at the Kennedy Center. It was amazing how effortless it was to pat herself on the back while throwing the term "billions" around. She bragged to a group of Harvard students how the Democrats were spending these "billions" on technology and green incentives, all with the caveat that this was to creat jobs. Under my breath I caught myself calling her some very unflattering names. She was asked how "being a woman" brought something more to the table in her position? She bragged she had the ability to "Listen" and I think she used that term at least 5 times in 2 minutes. Our college students are going to have a rude awakening when stepping thru the doors of the "real world". The words "Billions" and "trillions" are thrownout like punchlines in this administration. These students after graduation will have to ask themselves what the heck was she talking about, when they go to pay off their student loans and provide a roof over thier heads for themselves.
Whewwwwww; I thought I was out of bounds thinking the movement(Peoples) has splintered. I see now, after reading all these posts, that what is wrong is as another person said. "we need a Unified Goal and a Strategic plan of action", which we do not have, other than in general terms.
I call on all leaders of all the various Patriotic resistance, Tea Party, groups to come together face to face and form a single well organized group. (maybe a steering comittee) To this end I would contribute my few dollars. It has to happen; I would make it at a central location like St Lewis, just an example. In the mean time I would like to see the many, many groups within the States to do the same. We need this to form a clear line of comunication. The problem is not the ultimate goal ,...but how to get there.
BTW I am a 61 year old clergy member/jack of all trades-former Redneck,hippie, bippie, dippie-And American (Southern by the Grace of God)HAHA!
"When in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitles them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation."
--- These words were not penned just so they could be ignored and they apply to today as well, if our legislatures and government WILL NOT listen to the pleas of the People then we have but one choice ---
"... That whenever any form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
--- Sooner or later we will have to do something besides talk or bow our knees and become slaves ---
"For I know not what course others may take but as for me, Give me Liberty or give me Death."
--- Do not the words of our founders tell us plainly what must be done? Think it over, but don't take too long, the tyrant is coming with his chains ready for you and you will bow your knees then. ---

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