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YEP !! We have never been in a situation in America where our constitution is no longer our protecter. That is a circumstance I don't believe any American would have dreamed would happen so now it is plan B what ever plan B is?

Tim,
How, I don'y know but education is not listed here as what we have to do;

That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies ;(STATES) and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government.

My thinking is the amendmant # 2 better be our priority.

Jerry

It is a good thing you have done and that is what has to be done, no doubt. My concern has been this man in the "black house" (couldn't help myself) is not affraid of any opposition:
"Obama decried arguments used against his plans.” We will be ill-served by the fear-mongering that emerges whenever we discuss this issue," he declared."
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""I know that the politics in Congress will be difficult. These issues are fodder for 30-second commercials and direct mail pieces that are designed to frighten. I get it. But if we continue to make decisions from within a climate of fear, we will make more mistakes," he said" Meaning emails and faxes from all of the organized groups that oppose his decisions.
He is starting to upset his Demacratic friends one at a time but, he is so arrogant he feels no threat. Refusing to disclose his birth information locked in a vault in Hawaii, he or a court order can open it. Would any public official let alone the president not be forth coming in clearing up any inpropriaties if there were nothing to hide.
This man knows something non of us know including his supporters.
You keep it up and I am doing the same. I am part of a Grand Jury looking into all of this so we do what we got to do keep your guns and ammunition or get some because the day will come before this is all over with we will have to use them one way or the other.

Tim
What you say, of course, is the rational way educating is how we got to where we are, allbeit the wrong education.. Karl Marx said if you just give me1 generation of your children, you can be defeated without a shot. I have am twenty seven year old son who supported Obama and I did all I knew how to give him facts and it made no difference. When I would talk about headed into Socialism with this guy he said we are there now
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He has a Liberal ideology but denies it as just independent thinking. When I refer to all of the problems of today he claimed it was my generation that got us here not his. He does have somewhat of a point but not like he meant it be. The impossible task of teaching our children the opposite way of thinking from the influence of their, teachers, television, movies, peers, politicians, and even some of the churches is at best a long, long process and all we have to do it is us.

All the way from “push 1 for English” to removing God’s name from public places, to allowing the flag to be burned as a exercise of free speech to abortion and homosexuality where it is just another choice and same sex marriage is right. These are things that were introduced one thing at a time until that is our societal norm.

I frankly, and sadly think it has gone to far and we can make a little change here an there (kick out a senator or two or even get rid of Obama) but the changes has been made little by little over many years until there is not an America as we once knew it. Pick any category and nothing is the same. We “old” constitutional Republic thinkers and God fearing moral people are living in a past that just will not be resurrected.

Think about music as an example, unlike my grandfather who was into the Charleston his son playing and dancing to the band sound, and his son dancing to jive and 50’s rock and roll, the came hard Rock and now Rap. This is generational changes that the generation before it thought was crazy. One thing is we will never be back to the Charleston and there will be something following Rap.

Society is not the same and ideology is not the same changes occur one little thing at a time over a period of time that will never be reversed. Take the Blacks for example that are always complaining about discrimination real or perceived but, had if we never brought them here as slaves and we certainly should not have, they would be in Africa in some tribe living in a hut instead of have a house to live, a car to drive, food to eat they did not have to chase down and kill, cloths to wear and the list goes on. They don’t want to go back and neither does all of the people that are dependant on how our society is today.

I’ll keep fighting the fight as will so many other patriots but our numbers are few in comparison, and time is running out to stop this fast growing one world type of government.

Excuse all of the mistakes I make, I need to spent more time proof reading posts before I send them

I know your right, that being the case somewhere someone along the way is goint have to step up as a viable spokesperson or leader of all of this grassroot movenment. I am not sure the normal method of "throw the bums out" is going to work before long if it is not to late already. When the govermental leaders reach a point that they do not pay attention to our constitution then it becomes nothing more than a peice of paper. No document is worth anything if there are not ways to enforce it.