New proposed gun laws

[DeWitt "Snowman" Wannamaker]

Gun Law Update by Alan Korwin,
> Author Gun Laws of America Jan. 5, 2008
>
> Gun-ban list proposed
>
> Slipping below the radar (or under the short-term memory cap), the Democrats
> have already leaked a gun-ban list, even under the Bush administration when
> they knew full well it had no chance of passage (HR 1022, 110th Congress).
> 0AIt serves as a framework for the new list the Brady's plan to introduce
> shortly.
>
> I have an outline of the Brady's current plans and targets of opportunity,
> It's horrific. They're going after the courts, regulatory agencies, firearms
> dealers and statutes in an all out effort to restrict we the people. They've
> made little mention of criminals.
>
> Now more than ever, attention to the entire Bill of Rights is critical. Gun
> bans will impact our freedoms under search and seizure, due process,
> confiscated property, states' rights, free speech, right to assemble and
> more, in addition to the Second Amendment.
>
> The Democrats current gun-ban-list proposal (final list will be worse):
>
> Rifles (or copies or duplicates):
>
> M1 Carbine, Sturm Ruger Mini-14, AR-15, Bushmaster XM15, Armalite M15,
> AR-10, Thompson 1927, Thompson M1; AK, AKM, AKS, AK-47, AK-74, ARM, MAK90,
> NHM 90, NHM 91, SA 85, SA 93, VEPR; Olympic Arms PCR; AR70, Calico Liberty,
> Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU, Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR,
>
> or FNC, Hi-Point Carbine, HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, HK-PSG-1, Thompson 1927
> Commando, Kel-Tec Sub Rifle; Saiga, SAR-8, SAR-4800, SKS with detachable
> magazine, SLG 95, SLR
> 95 or 96, Steyr AU, Tavor, Uzi, Galil and Uzi Sporter, Galil Sporter, or
> Galil Sniper Rifle (Galatz).
>
> Pistols (or copies or duplicates):
>
> Calico M-110, MAC-10, MAC-11, or MPA3, Olympic Arms OA, TEC-9, TEC-DC9,
> TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10, U zi.
>
> Shotguns (or copies or duplicates):
>
> Armscor 30 BG, SPAS 12 or LAW 12, Striker 12, Streetsweeper.
>
> Catch-all category (for anything missed or new designs):
>
> A semiautomatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine and has (i) a
> folding or telescoping stock, (ii) a threaded barrel, (iii) a pistol grip
> (which includes ANYTHING that can serve as a grip, see below), (iv) a
> forward grip; or a barrel shroud.
>
> Any semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10
> rounds (except tubular magazine .22 rimfire rifles).
>
> A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine,
>
> and has (i) a second pistol grip, (ii) a threaded barrel, (iii) a barrel
> shroud or (iv) can accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip,
> and (v) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more
> than 10 rounds.
>
> A semiautomatic shotgun with (i) a folding or telescoping stock, (ii) a
> pistol grip (see definition below), (iii) the ability to accept a detachable
>
> magazine or a fixed magazine capacity of more than 5 rounds, and (iv) a
> shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
>
> Frames or receivers for the above are included, along with conversion kits.
>
> Attorney General gets carte blanche to ban guns at will:
>
> Under the proposal, the U.S. Attorney General can add any "semiautomatic
> rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use,20or
>
> a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly
> suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General." Note
>
> that Obama's pick for this office (Eric Holder, confirmation hearing set for
>
> Jan. 15) wrote a brief in the Heller case supporting the position that you
> have no right to have a working firearm in your own home.
>
> In making this determination, the bill says, "there shall be a rebuttable
> presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or
>
> any federal law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting
>
> purposes, and a firearm shall not be determined to be particularly suitable
> for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a
> sporting event."
>
> In plain English this means that ANY firearm ever obtained by federal
> officers or the military is not suitable for the public.
>
> The last part is particularly clever, stating that a firearm doesn't have a
> sporting purpose just because it can be used for sporting purpose -- is that
>
> devious or what? And of course, "sporting purpose" is a rights infringement
> with no constitutional or historical support whatsoever, invented by
> domestic enemies of the right to keep and bear arms to further their cause
> of disarming the innocent.
>
> Respectfully submitted, Alan Korwin, Author Gun Laws of America
> http://www.gunl aws.com/gloa.htm
>
> Foward or send to every gun owner you know.....

[Matt Matlock]

Thank you - I've written countless things on this bill and everything I read always misses that last part. The A.G. being able to ban at will is worthy of armed conflict but saying that a rebuttable presumption exists that ANY weapon bought by FedGov is automatically banned - WOW. Just the fact that a REPRESENTATIVE could put those words onto paper and present them - that's automatic treason. Let's say FedGov had decided to buy Cheney a new mossberg 500A as a joke - well, that's automatically BANNED! FedGov has a problem with squirrels in the capitol building and they buy an old Remington Nylon 66 - BANNED! Now, on top of that, we all know that not only that particular gun would be banned but EVERY model of that type. This is beyond a political issue and the mere fact of its introduction can easily be seen as a Declaration of War.

[DJ "El Gato" Czerniejewski]

Any law that places limits of any kind on gun ownership is an infringement of the Second Amendment!

[WOOF]

Amen, what part of shall not be infringed do they not understand

[Dave]

Time for a Second "American Revolution?"

[Matt Matlock]

It's been time for that, Dave, since 1913

[Wm. Dwain Cleveland]

Enacting Bans and getting Banned weapons away from the gun owner is, of course, two entirely different issues. There are few law enforcement types in Georgia that will go along with any such program. Same for most of the South, South-western and North-western States. Those that would are prepared to enforce such tyranny will soon learn hard lessons of neccessity.
I think I'll go into deeper debt and buy a couple or six more ugly old assault weapons. You can never have to many, ya know. Or to much ammo. By the way - if you haven't got a few skotched away out of sight yet; you might want to consider the idea. Couldn't hurt.....

Dwain Cleveland