US Military Disarmed Afghanistan

Comment by Don Moore on March 16, 2012 at 12:17pm

Who is this guy he's right on the money

Comment by Ray Zelker jr on March 16, 2012 at 12:52pm

All the chiefs of staff or the us have been paid off by the united  nations that's what i think anyway Panetta is not working for the usa anymore him and ohama and the rest of the white house cronies are all trying to get to the united nations one world government by making our military seem useless disarming them in this way is not more wrong in ohama eyes then the way our militarys rules of engagement works to help our enemies kill are soldiers and they wonder why a soldier snaps. i sorry but we need to bring our soldiers home and to hell with the un and nato and stop the damn apologizeing making us look weak!!

Comment by robert macinness on March 16, 2012 at 1:16pm

This country has no busines fighting wars anymore. We now only enter a war with plans for an exit stategy. That as a starting point in any conflict is inviting defeat. Add to that rules of engagement that insures the survival of the enemy and the killing of Americans and you have a military leadership that cannot win wars. Our navy fights pirates by watching them from billion dollar ships with biboculars and the one fighting branch of our military, our Marines are about to be neutered by this group of sixties radicals. Tell your children and grandchildren we have fought enough wars and do not join any branch of our military. The only war worth fighting in the future will be against their own corrupt socialist government.

Comment by Clarence E. DeBarrows on March 16, 2012 at 5:33pm

This is meant as a general comment based on my personal experience as a Marine.  It is not specifically directed to anyone in particular, but is just my observation relative to the discussion taking place here.

I joined the corps in 1951, right out of high school.  I served for 3 years and received an honorable discharge as a Staff Sergeant in 1954 after returning from Korea at the end of 1953, the year the "police action" ended.  I'm concerned by what I'm reading here, as based on statements made, one could conclude that foundational imperatives traditionally inherent in the Corps have changed since I was on active duty.  During my time as an active duty Marine we had commanders in the field like Chesty Puller, who later became the Commandant.  General Puller was held in such high regard by those he served with that even after he retired if he in civilian clothes, with his family, entered a restaurant to have dinner the men in the establishment, who knew who he was, would stand showing their respect for him.  If he felt it was necessary to order his Marines to put their weapons down in any situation, though I can't see him doing that, they would have put them down!  I was taught, early on, in boot camp that when you were given an order by a superior, whether that superior be your Commanding Officer, the Sergeant Major or your squad leader, you followed that order without reservation!  I never knew one Marine who would not carry out an order given by a superior.  The integrity of the Corps was based on that foundational imperative.  It was sacrosanct.   I heard of pseudo Marines who couldn't conform to that imperative, but they were either weeded out in Boot Camp and sent packing or wound up in Leavenworth.  As I say, this just reflects my experience and if things are such now that Marines can opt to obey which orders they choose to obey I'm afraid our Country is in deeper trouble than I thought, as the Corps I knew is no more.  My guess is this isn't the case.  My guess is this talk of shouting back at officers telling them you won't obey an order is really just hyperbole to emphasize a point.  If it is more than that, then the foundational imperative, the necessary discipline which is the backbone of an efficient and honorable fighting force like the Marine Corps is no more.  I cannot allow myself to believe that today's Marines don't understand the meaning of "esprit de corps".  Semper Fi MEANS Semper Fi!

Semper Fi,

Clarence De Barrows

S/Sgt USMC 1190645  1951-1954

Korea     

Comment by Jerry C Peebles on March 17, 2012 at 9:13am

So much for  "esprit de corps".  Semper Fi MEANS Semper Fi!  I guess this code leaves you brainless.  The day will come if things are going the way they are with this president that we will have to exersize our constitutional right to remove the standing administration and replace it with the original constitutional republic it is suppose to be.  Unless a lot of military people ignore the orders of a rogue president they will be klling their own citizens for some code that says take obey orders no matter what.  I just lost my respect of Jarheads if you all feel the same way.

Comment by Ed Gamble on March 17, 2012 at 10:54am

I can't fault the troops for following orders.  These people are very familiar with the political correctness that has overrun our military since the 70s when I was in it.  I'm sure that many of them grumbled to themselves and each other about it but, like good soldiers, followed orders.  It was a lawful order and they had no business refusing to obey it, like it or not.  Now as to the foolishness of the order and the politican who was behind it,  I agree 100%.

Comment by Joyce Romano on March 18, 2012 at 3:50am

AMEN.  The question isn't that the soldiers followed orders.  The question is THE ORDER!  Our Pentagon has been infiltrated by the same subversive elements that have infiltrated ALL our government agencies...and the media and academia.  And none of them have our best interests at heart.  They are all focused on the global government...not in America as a sovereign nation.

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