3-star ripped for presentation referencing God

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2012/02/military-3-star-presentation-reference-god-021712/

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WASHINGTON DC - - Air Force Lt. Gen. Ronnie Hawkins, the new head of the Defense Information Systems Agency, is under fire for a commander’s call Wednesday that included references to God. But Hawkins, who just took over the directorship of DISA in January, said his presentation has been taken out of context.

As part of an all-hands meeting with DISA employees, Hawkins apparently showed a power point presentation that contained two slides titled “Ronnie’s Rules” that outline 18 priorities, the first and last of which are “Always put God first, and stay within His will” and “Always remember God is good — all the time!”
 
Hawkins said in a response to a query from Air Force Times that he stated at the all-hands meeting that “Ronnie’s Rules” were his personal road map for living and he has used it since he was a captain. He said he tries to live by these rules every day.
 
“Those two slides, in particular ...were in no way a directive or expectation I have for our dedicated men and women,” said Hawkins, who previously served as deputy director of command control, communications and computer systems, Joint Staff at the Pentagon. “The rules are my own personal guide posts, or moral compass.”
 
All DISA employees apparently didn’t see the presentation the same way.
 
A fine DISA employee who witnessed the presentation spoke with Air Force Times under condition of anonymity. He said he was shocked that a senior leader would include such direct references to God in a commander’s call that in his opinion was held to say “I’m your new commander and this is what I expect of you.”
 
The employee said that he provided the presentation to the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, a nonprofit advocacy group, “in hopes of saving lives.”  Yeah, right.
 
MRFF’s founder and president, Mikey Weinstein, is calling for Hawkins to be court-martialed for violating his oath to the Constitution. He said he is representing 21 employees at DISA.
 
The employee said what might seem like an ordinary presentation to Air Force employees can be easily obtained and used as propaganda in other countries — something he said a commander should know. People in Arab nations for example, might see Hawkins’ comments as a show of support toward one religion by the U.S. government, he said.
 
“If you’re a commander, you will be seen as speaking for the U.S. government whether you like it or not,” he said. “What you do goes out into world.”

 

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  • What a bunch of nonsense.  At what point in the oath that an officer takes does it require him to cease referring to God, nor does it violate his oath to the Constitution.  The government, and no one, has the right to dictate a person's feelings or beliefs.  And who cares what the people in Arab nations perceive.  We are not here to please them.  I also disagree that he is speaking for the US Government.  Herein lies the greatest threat to our nation.  It is not the economic crisis or whether we go to war with Iraq or Afghanistan or Iran.  It is the slow erosion and loss of our personal freedoms.  The freedom to think as we want, to worship how we please, to defend our selves and to speak our minds.  These are the basic freedoms guaranteed us by the Constitution through the wisdom of a few men that gave their all.  Once we lose anyone of these we have lost everything.  God help us to preserve these basic freedoms.  The government certainly won't.  

  • oops - that was supposed to read, "... perform the same, and take their president ...."

    sometimes my brain is faster than my keyboard. q;- \=
  • To Juanita : You are quite correct. AND, At no time upon retiring from the USAF, was I required to dissolve my oath, recant my oath, reverse my oath, etc. Therefore, I feel compelled to say, that in the event the enemy - whether within or without, foreign or domestic - attacks The Constitution and or our Nation - I shall indeed come to the defense of the same when called upon, again.

    To borrow from my brothers-in-arms: "Semper Fi"
  • Can we say BULL... this fine General, whom I first met many years ago when he was a Capt at Dyess AFB, I was accomplishing the C4CM requirements for the beddown of the B1B.  While on TDY to the 1993 CS/ISS Dyess AFB I had the pleasure of meeting several fine young officer and over the years I have watched as they progressed up the ranks.  This is nothing but the idiots, and yes we have them even in DISA.  I worked with DISA on a damn near daily basis in the 1990's until I retired in 96.  This report makes me wonder what the critters really want, I think I know; I may be wrong.  His power point did not advocate for the government to establish any religion.  His presentation was his life rules or so I take it from the article.  There are few unreligious personnel in the military and even fewer once the non-believer is shot at and in some deep popo.  Heck the best thing would be to... once Obama is removed from office, purge his lackeys too.

    • I just recieved this email, I passed it on to everyone in my address book and thought I would share it with you please pass it along....me thinks America is waking up !!!!!!!!

      watch these two videos , this man is a constitutional scholar and he is telling us obama is not eligible to be president of this country according to our Constution, no other constitutional scholar has come forth to deny these facts , no one in our govt is doing anything about it , obama is a fraud and a traitor to our republic our laws and constitution, what do we do ? do we have to start a civil war to rid our govt of this usurper ? our congress and senate do nothing , they are cowards , they are afraid of a black uprising if we kick the first black president out of office and imprison him or worse hang him for high treason, this man is destroying our nation he is deceiving us and using class warfare to keep the sheepels minds off the real problem... our govt has been hijacked by  the democrat party and their conman and he has pulled the biggest hoax in the history of our republic on ''WE THE PEOPLE''  , we  have been deceived by this fraud obama and we need to do something about it befor he destroys this country.... pass this on if your a patriot ...delete it if you're not or you just dont care about whats happining to our America
       
       
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  • What's really amazing, I was under the understanding, that all oaths of office, and the swearing in of our military's oath ALL ended in "So help me GOD"  Am I wrong?

  • I get so tired of bystanders interpreting what Commanders say to their troops and then referencing what foreign governments might, repeat might think about the words the commanders had to say. Frankly, I do not and never did give one whit what foreign governments have to say about anything we do in this country.  I believe that is part of our problem in this world. We actually believe what the politically correct crowd would have us believe and that is that it matters what we say and do to other governments.  And we would not want anyone to think badly of us for speaking our mind....why they might be offended and that would be so wrong......well I truly believe that what we say and do is our business and the PC crowd can shove it if they do not like it and that includes also foreign governments  we have been spilling our blood and resources protecting ...from themselves mostly... for the past ten years.  Face it folks, time for change alright. Lets get back to basics of standing up for and fighting for what we have always believed in....God, Country and Corps as said countless times and as practiced by our military for more than 300 years.  Semper Fi General  Keep it up. God Bless You and your troops.

  • Let's get one thing very clear here..

    Allah - the Moon God

    The Archaeology of the Middle East

    The religion of Islam has as its focus of worship a deity by the name of "Allah." The Muslims claim that Allah in pre-Islamic times was the biblical God of the Patriarchs, prophets, and apostles. The issue is thus one of continuity. Was "Allah" the biblical God or a pagan god in Arabia during pre-Islamic times? The Muslim's claim of continuity is essential to their attempt to convert Jews and Christians for if "Allah" is part of the flow of divine revelation in Scripture, then it is the next step in biblical religion. Thus we should all become Muslims. But, on the other hand, if Allah was a pre-Islamic pagan deity, then its core claim is refuted. Religious claims often fall before the results of hard sciences such as archeology. We can endlessly speculate about the past or go and dig it up and see what the evidence reveals. This is the only way to find out the truth concerning the origins of Allah. As we shall see, the hard evidence demonstrates that the god Allah was a pagan deity. In fact, he was the Moon-god who was married to the sun goddess and the stars were his daughters.

  • Tell those jerks to pull up their "Big Girl" panties and get a life, for heaven's sake...

  • Harry,

    Airheads is not a proper description for these Anal-brains. I only hope that the "fine DISA employee who witnessed..." ends up getting stationed in the Antarctic for the rest of his days of service, and the Lt. Gen get's his 4th star (if they even have 4 stars in the AF) just for his presentation.

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