I'm asking all of PFA members to get in on this discussion. If you are truly linking arms with us, it is time to step up and engage with us.

This is a very important question and with a very important catch to it................We need everything laid on the table to see what we have, the catch is, we cannot throw on the table two plans of action: We cannot put on the table petitioning any government department, agency, or seat and we also cannot put on the table - to hold a rally or sit in.

We must acknowledge the truths of the environment in our country. We are now in a socialist country, it doesn't matter if you like that fact or not....we're there. We must also acknowledge that trying to work with a socialist government by pretending that we can use tools of liberty is dishonest and discouraging.

So, what do you got?

Twana

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  • Twana, I believe that the first time I heard of NALC was Clare Baileys post on this thread. Of course, with my memory what it is, I could be wrong. All I had done was take a perfunctory glance before leaving my first reply above on Clares post. Anywho, since I stuck my foot in my mouth considering the NALC, and since I have found out more on NALC, both from the link to the NALC website, AND the link that Bruce posted above, I no longer have the lukewarm views I espoused earlier and have gone so far as to make a pittance of a donation for their efforts. And any that know my situation, knows me making a donation, regardless of how small, is a rare event in my life.Not due to want, but, due to ability. From here on I am re-committing to follow your lead, to the best of my ability, regarding NALC and any other initiatives PFA & USPU deem worthy.

  • I agree with many,but my suggestion is to organize a group of fluent Spanish speakers who will monitor the Hispanic press,write comments,write editorials.It is impossible for new English speakers to understand politics in their new language.I had to look up sequestration in the dictionary.Plus you must understand the culture.Many come from very corrupt countries. My friend,an atty, has to warn Spanish speaking clients,"No bribes to the Judge."

    I speak passable Spanish but have friends who are fluent including my grandson.

    I have taught English to Spanish speakers as a volunteer. You do not have to speakSpanish  to be a teacher of English as the lessons are done totally in English. When i taught English I also taught some conservative values.

    The Hispanic media elected Obama in 2008 and also in 2012.

    Please do not write "They need to learn English" Yes, they do, but there are many obstacles in the way: few volunteers, young mothers who cannot drive, etc,

    editorials.it
    This domain may be for sale!
  • I think that one of the best ways to fight for our Constitutional Republic is through legal means. This is a strong and sure way to defend our Constitution. The North American Law Center's Volunteer page is still under construction, but when it's up, I'd like to apply. I have been keen to sue the government on many fronts, but it's too daunting and costs too much. Most of us probably have. To me, this seems like a way to participate and to have representation now.

    "All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." - Thomas Jefferson.

    We are clearly not silent here on this site, and this is an asset.... this is Constitutional.

    • Been there, done that.

      Every legal measure against the usurper and his "in the bag" Congress & Judicial have been turned away for lack of 'standing' or lack of evidence, etc. or, for the most part, ignored, even though EVERYBODY knows the dirt is Right Freaking THERE!!! There is NO recourse to the law of man anymore. I have sent letters to my "Representatives" as well as the Michigan Attorney General which include Mike Rogers, He is a member of the Republican Party and Chairman of the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

       

      But, truth be told, there is no "Intelligence" there!

       

      I have called him on his lack of duty to his constituents.

       

      He responds as follows:

       

      Dear Mr. Frank:
      Thank you for contacting me regarding your concern that President Barack Obama is not a natural born citizen of the United States. I appreciate you sharing your thoughts with me on this issue.
      While initially refusing to release information due to state privacy laws, Hawaii’s Health Director and Head of Vital Statistics have since examined and vouched for the authenticity of President Obama’s birth certificate. On April 27, 2011, the White House released the long-form birth certificate of Barack Obama, confirming that he was born in Honolulu, Hawaii on August 4, 1961. Therefore, Barack Obama is eligible to be President of the United States under Article II Section 1 of the United States Constitution".

      (REALLY! He "vouched"?)
      Likewise, multiple challenges to President Obama’s eligibility have been made in several federal courts across the country. These courts are the proper, constitutionally designated place for such grievances. All the challenges have been summarily dismissed.
      While I disagree with President Obama on any number of important issues, I respect the electoral process and have faith in our political institutions. I look forward to moving past the rhetoric of past campaigns and working on the important issues in America like unemployment, health care and energy independence.
      Thank you again for contacting me regarding this issue. If you have any other questions or comments, please do not hesitate to contact my office.
      Sincerely,
      Signature
      Mike Rogers
      Member of Congress
      I answered him:
       
       
      Mike Rogers,
      You have been given a chance to pick your side, and, by choosing to ignore the evidence  that Arizonas Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio and his cold case posse have turned up in his investigation of the forged documentation of both the Liar in Chiefs' Birth Certificate and Selective Service Card, it is plain to see that you have taken the position that you are willing to side with Evil and Corruption by your continued participation in the Usurpers and the Lame-Stream Medias LIES and obfuscation.
      Perhaps you believe that as long as the media do not cover it, it did not happen?
      The truth is, there were dozens of Lame-Stream media outlets at the announcement and NONE printed or announced the story, even though it is arguably the largest fraud ever perpetrated upon We The People!
      There are millions of us out here that know the truth and are disgusted how none of this Countries elected are willing to listen.
      What kind of "Representative" for the People takes the word of a bureaucrat over a Constitutionally Sworn and Elected Sheriff anyway? Surely not one who expects to be re-elected.
      Your willingness to ACTIVELY support this attack on our Constitution by keeping your head buried in the sand has not, and will not, escape notice or be far from our minds, come election day or SHTF Day, whichever comes first!
      So, you see, it is not that they are not aware, it is simply at odds with their goals of subjugating the American people to an Un-Godly Nations Agenda 21.
       
      Agenda 21 can be researched on the U.N.'s own website at  http://www.un.org/esa/earthsummit/usa-cp.htm
      They are not hiding this in the least. Question-Why does nobody in this Country move to stop Agenda 21? Answer-Because Agenda 21 is their GOAL AS WELL!!!
       


      They mean to take our wealth as a Nation and our Resources as a Nation and our Sovereignty as a Nation and stomp us into sbmission so they can divvy everything we have built to all the shithole countries of the WORLD.
       
      So, by all means, continue to play the game through the legal channels. Let us know how that contnues to play out for you. Me, I've got lead to cast............
      .
      • I see, yes. I am aware of the problem. I,too, have engaged and the results are just as you illustrate. 

        Two things, I guess. One, is that I have copied the following from the Home page of The North American Law Center; either it resonates or it doesn't. No question, it does with me. I am that American citizen. Two, is who is doing it. Take a look.

        THE NORTH AMERICAN LAW CENTER

        Year after year, case after case, the American people have had their rights eviscerated by the American legal system. This deliberate destruction has come in the pursuit of effecting a “utopian global social justice system”. In actuality, what we have are judicial activists, through their lofty positions, imposing by fiat, that which should be determined through due process. These absurd, inane and socialistic decisions, substituting personal policy preferences for Constitutional imperatives, have destroyed both the intent and spirit of the Constitution, as well as the foundation of the Rule of Law.

        The courts, together with most self-serving, agenda driven attorneys, have abandoned the Rule of Law, in lieu of legislating from the bench, precedent priority, and procedural chaos. Confusion has become the stock and trade of the courts. Not only are these “so-called” authorities unelected and unaccountable, they have rejected and violated their Constitutional role to provide “liberty and justice for all”. Not only are their decisions beyond their authority, they violate and destroy the will of the American people. Perhaps the most destructive issue…a decision from the courts, instead of remaining a simple decision, becomes law, a precedent, if you will, which further perpetrates the fallacy of Stare Decisis, which by its very concept violates our Rule of Law…that each case shall be judged on its own merits.

        These tyrants, who continually violate our Constitutional rights and liberties, are not only in the legal system, but are found in other positions of power, i.e., federal, state  and local governments, appointed and/or elected positions, individuals, panels or groups, politicians, agencies, etc. This daily erosion of our freedoms has resulted in the theft and transfer of the power from the American people to state and federal governments.

        The actions above have left the American people alone, defenseless, with no avenue for redress of grievances. There have always been various groups which defend criminals, illegal aliens, environmental causes, racial issues, and a plethora of other special interest
        causes. But, who stands up to defend the decent, average hard-working, tax-paying American, who loves his Country…has defended his Country…foots the bills for all the “entitlement” programs, and, is watching the American Dream vanish before his eyes?

        THE NORTH AMERICAN LAW CENTER has been formed by American citizens for the benefit of American citizens. This is an opportunity for the American people to stand-up and be counted. If you as an American citizen desire for the government/courts to once again be accountable to us, then this is your cause of action. When a lone person’s rights are trampled, there is very little, if anything, one person can do. The violators of our freedoms depend on this fact. However, with a team of American professionals who are not for sale at any price, and, a substantial war chest, we will defeat our Nation’s enemies in their own arena, and restore…liberty and justice for all. We will fight the battles that no one can fight alone…peacefully and legally.


        • I will have to keep an eye on that particular group, Clare. I hope they become all they aspire to be, BUT, for right now, all I see is a mission statement, a donate button and news from before the election? You said one, their home page and TWO who is doing it. Who IS doing it???

          • Clare, I am not one to recognize when I am wrong without owning it.

            Unfortunately, I did not click on the Breaking News part of THE NORTH AMERICAN LAW CENTER that you mentioned. I'm sure that you were probably offended (and rightly so) about the manner & tone of my first reply above. I am sometimes so frustrated with the 'legal' challenges and the 'political' challenges that I tend to speak out against things others speak of before giving them and their ideas a fair hearing. You and everybody here deserve better from me. I apologize to you and anyone else I may have offended and I will work hard to deserve your friendships in and out of this group in the future

            • Well, yeah, one interesting thing leads to another so personally I didn't take any offense because new info can change a mind quickly. Plus, I liked that you are decisive.

              Your apology is very gracious, Robert.

          • You may have already seen this page, but if you have not check out the links there.

            http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com/forum/topics/follow-up-for-all-o...

            Follow Up For All of You Who Answered the Call For Voter Fraud Info - Here are details you've been…
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  • Another issue we must be prepared to face James, is; like "sharks sensing blood in the water", Countries like Iran, N.Korea and "faction groups" like Al Queida, and Hesbolla and their sleepers already "in-country" will think they will be able to swim in for the "kill" and eradicate America. 

    This is more than internal conflict, this is where the SHTF comes to America and we will be subjected to extreme prejudice on our soil just as Israel has been for over 3000 years.

     

    Semper Vigilo, Fortis, Paratus et Fidelis

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