We should never ever send our troops into a war if they are not allowed to win every battle! This is insane!
This is destroying the morale of our men and women who are willing to sacrifice everything for the freedoms we so arrogantly enjoy
When I was a grunt, our weapons plt. PLT SGT used to talk about setting up ambushes with all the restrictions on their patrols; he said that they confiscated two AKs and never claimed them. The two point men would let VC/NVA patrols into the firezone and open up on them with the AKs, basecamp would hear them first and THEN return fire from M-16s.
There's a way to get around the house rules...nothing is foolproof....
Semper Vigilo, Fortis, Paratus et Fidelis
Yep, the War now is between We The People and obama!
SAD BUT TRUE, Me Navy carried Extra ammo with the grunts on 2 patrols( It wasn't a light-load) we all can back alive, lost many NVA's. still the present military needs that protection back..!!
The problem is that arm chair warriors are dictating the ROEs that the force is obligated to use. The obligation is the oath they took. Personnaly, I still have "Spastic" in my med records, served me well. Couldn't control my arms, so sayeth the Flight Surgeon.
All the blame for this falls directly on OBAMA's useless ass. Leave the knuckle dragging cave-people of Afghanistan so they can kill each other off.
Our Soldiers have no obligation to listen to a CIC that doesn't care what happens to them. That may not be the Military way, but that's the damn way I see it!
Shades of Vietnam---I recall when we heard how Afghanistan was to the Russians--"their Vietnam." But our mere politicians wanted to prove from behind their highly polished desk , in the fresh from the cleaner expensive three piece suits-and their clean hands and dirty minds that America could do what the Russians could NOT. Now Afghanistan is our second Vietnam The problem is the ROE. The problem is Washington DC.In my generation we had more respect for Mr.Victor charles -rightly so-- than we had for anything that smelled of Washington DC. Those who refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat it --eh.? In "the Republic of -- and them SE Asian War Games-- the ones behind the Desks in DC -at the State Dinners--cosing with the foreign nationals at the UN parties had no respect for the rice farmers inthat land that God forgot.
WE had the best trained and the best equipt Army And By golly we would show the yellow man how to fight. Not one of the boyz in DC understood how to fight a tiger with primitive gear.And the ROE kicked our butt. We lost not on the foreign battlefield --but on the streets and college campus. I really don't think the home front has been engaged in the sandbox --but the ROE the politicians in the Pentagon are a far more deadly enemy than the bloody Muslim.
You can not have a war where one side has rules. This is exactly what went on in Viet Nam and Iraqi and Afghanistan now. The opposition know their oppositions hands are tied and utilize this to their advantage.
it is the Obama administrations intent to weaken the USA to the same levels that came after Vietnam. we should be looking for the latest version of Kerry to come out soon and appear in front of the senate to make the issue political in time for the elections.
Pull out all our troops bring them all home place them on our borders and seal the nation from illegals crossing the border.
then make it an issue that every one have a proper photographic identification to stay here or they are forced to return to their homeland. how stupid is it that Obama's uncle has avoided deportation this long.
We need to clean out that nest of black widows in DC before we send our troops again.