I have supported President Trump without qualification before and during his presidency. I support him now but not on "Red Flag" gun confiscation.

This issue has been on my mind for some time. Today, Chuck Baldwin's message has added to my worries of losing my constitutional rights and Pastor Baldwin outlines the many dangers associated with "Red Flag" laws and my freedom.

I fought out of the fox-hole for my and your Constitutional Rights and I won't support a law that gives some whiny individual that might not like me, fabricate some story about my behavior, that might cause a gestapo type door busting raid on my home in the middle of the night. It is too dangerous for me not to speak up.

I urge all to read Pastor Baldwin's message, call your Senators and Representative in Washington, D.C. and oppose any type "Red Flag" law(s) that ignores my constitutional right, locks me up, and makes me prove my innocence. Don't think this couldn't happen!!!

I'm disappointed in President Trump in taking a position that appears to support "Red Flag" legislation...........don't wait for someone else to take action, we must individually take action and urge all our friends to do the same. We are dangerously close to losing a major constitutional right if we sit back and "let someone else do it".

Call your US Senators and Representative at your earliest opportunity.....and don't stop with one call. Call many times. God help us.

Harry Riley

“Red Flag” Gun Confiscation Laws Are Even Worse Than You Think

By Chuck Baldwin 
August 22, 2019


As I said in this column last week, Republicans Donald Trump, Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham and Marco Rubio are joining forces with liberal Democrats to soon enact “red flag” gun confiscation laws. I also reported on the push for the enactment of other gun control measures such as universal background checks being promoted on Capitol Hill and by the White House here.

Yes, Donald Trump is calling for “red flag” gun confiscation laws and universal background checks. Trump said, “I have an appetite for background checks. We’re going to be doing background checks. We’re going to be filling in . . . the loopholes.” 

I urge readers to watch my 8-minute video exposing Donald Trump’s betrayal of his promise to protect the 2nd Amendment and share it with as many of your friends as you can. If we don’t convince our U.S. senators to reject these egregious gun control measures, THEY WILL BE PASSED, AND TRUMP WILL SIGN THEM INTO LAW. We have about two or three weeks to convince our senators to reject these new gun control laws. That’s it.

Please watch the video and share it with everyone you can.

If law-abiding gun owners don’t call their U.S. senators en masse, and I mean posthaste, you are very likely to wake up one morning around 4am to the sound of a SWAT team breaking down your door to confiscate your guns, prepared to kill you or any member of your family who resists. Why? Perhaps because a gun-hating neighbor hates you having guns or a relative doesn’t like you and is looking for any way to “teach you a lesson” or your ex-spouse is looking for any way to “get even” with you or an anti-gun cop with a grudge wants to send a political message or a family doctor or school teacher overheard one of your children talk about how many guns daddy has and became alarmed, etc., ad infinitum.

Plus, the FBI has just recently stated that if you believe in “conspiracy theories,” you are a “domestic terrorist threat.” That statement is from an FBI intelligence bulletin from the bureau’s Phoenix field office, dated May 30, 2019. That FBI designation alone could very easily precipitate a “red flag” gun confiscation order being rendered against you.

And Donald Trump himself recently demonstrated how dangerous “red flag” laws are. In a tweet on August 13, President Trump said,

Would Chris Cuomo be given a Red Flag for his recent rant? Filthy language and a total loss of control. He shouldn’t be allowed to have any weapon. He’s nuts!

Are you paying attention? Donald Trump was threatening to use a “red flag” law to authorize police agencies to take away an American citizen’s Natural God-given right of self-defense simply because Trump didn’t like what the citizen said—about him.

Folks, don’t you see? Those in authority can use “red flag” gun confiscation laws against ANYONE they want and for ANY REASON they want.

In other words, there doesn’t have to be a reason. Under “red flag” laws, all it takes for police to come and seize your guns is for someone to make a “red flag” accusation against you. That’s it. And, yes, it really IS that easy.

“Red flag” laws not only eviscerate the 2nd Amendment, but the 1st Amendment, 4th Amendment, 5th Amendment, 6th Amendment, 7th Amendment and 8th Amendment.

The enforcement of “red flag” laws is actually much worse than you think, so says Donald Kilmer, an attorney who has litigated and defended against many state and federal gun charges.

Everyone is debating “red flag” laws like they’re some new thing, but California has had variations of them for decades. We call them domestic violence restraining orders, civil harassment restraining orders, workplace restraining orders, elder abuse restraining orders, mental health seizures and prohibition orders, and, more recently, gun violence restraining orders.

They’re all meant to disarm dangerous people — but they’re all fundamentally flawed.

None of these red flag laws would have prevented recent mass shootings. And in my 23 years practicing law in the heart of Silicon Valley, I have litigated dozens of these cases. I’ve seen firsthand the practical enforcement problems that emerge in real-life cases.

These kinds of court orders are usually obtained from a judge ex parte. That’s fancy Latin for: The judge only hears one side of the story, it is not your side, and you may not even know about it until after the fact. Then they immediately strip you of fundamental constitutional rights for the duration of the orders. You’ll get your “full due process” hearing, but not until later.

And any violation of these orders is separately punishable as a crime. So even if you are innocent of the underlying conduct that inspired the “red flag” order, if you violate the order pending your hearing, you can still face criminal charges.

That kind of situation is ripe for danger. In one situation in Baltimore, police ended up shooting [and killing] a man when they came to collect his guns under a “red flag” law.

In one case in Southern California, a client had to pay a $1,000 ransom, that was reduced from an initial “offer” of $4,000, to get his 50-gun collection back.

Experienced counsel to defend you in a “due process” hearing will run about $15,000 in fees. If you lose and want to appeal, expect to spend another $25,000 to $100,000 in fees and costs. And even with all of that, you might still lose.

To win these hearings, you have to refute an allegation that you pose a danger to yourself or others where a judge already issued a temporary ex parte order that concluded you were already a danger. Many judges will likely err on the side of caution, and against your rights.

As a practical matter, if the government’s interest is in separating a potentially-dangerous person from guns, it makes no sense to leave other guns that belong to family members in the home. So, if you live with someone that gets a red flag order issued against them, then you and others living in the same home risk losing your guns, too.

Even if you win, the judge isn’t going to just hand your guns back to you at the end of the hearing. It’s probably a good idea to “lawyer up” just to go through the process of recovering your guns, so you don’t go to jail or prison for accidentally breaking an obscure firearm law or regulation. You wouldn’t want to set off a red flag.

Law-abiding gun owners better get a big whiff of reality SOON and realize that if they are going to maintain the right to keep and bear arms much longer, THEY must step up to the plate and defend that right—and I mean RIGHT NOW.

The NRA is compromised and is in complete disarray and is offering NO HELP. Donald Trump has already proven he has ZERO fidelity to the 2nd Amendment (or to the rest of the Constitution and Bill of Rights, for that matter). Most Christians and conservatives are in a state of deep denial and hibernation, believing that their yellow-haired savior would never betray them, in spite of the fact that he has already betrayed them—repeatedly.

It is up to individual freedomists and gun owners who are willing to fight for their right to keep and bear arms to fend off this assault against our 2nd Amendment liberties. Reinforcements are not coming; it is up to YOU AND ME. 

How much does the 2nd Amendment mean to you? Each of us will determine the answer to that question by what we do or do not do RIGHT NOW. 

P.S. I, again, URGE readers to watch my 8-minute video regarding Trump’s betrayal of the 2nd Amendment and the push for the enactment of “red flag” gun confiscation laws and share it with everyone you can. In the video, I also include the phone numbers for both the White House and U.S. Senate, where you can call and voice your opposition.

P.P.S. Here is my video Open Letter To Our Legislator, Judges And Lawmen regarding “red flag” gun confiscation laws. Please watch it and share.

© Chuck Baldwin

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Trump Shelves Gun Control After Ted Nugent Says “Trust the President” on Second Amendment

“At this point I would recommend patience and hope,” Nugent said

I think Nugent is right.I also agree with the "trust but verify" but verification is hard 

to do until someone tries to pass/sign something.I've been thinking in the back of 

my mind the last few days that,"gee,Trump can't possibly be that stupid".....?

We once housed those with mental disabilities in homes and hospitals.  The Dems thought treatment was cruel and unfair.  The answer is not the abolishing of .guns but the correct housing for the mentally troubled. But that costs money.  So, we have them running around with no one being responsible.  So, we have what we have.

"They Live" to completely disarm America.  Speech.  Guns.  Knives … ICYMI - there has been an uptick in stabbing incidents. 


i agree this is their agenda i hope that the president is not all in on this one.   i believe his son, Don Jr. is an avid gun owner and hunter i am sure he wants his, and Lindsey Graham on sunday morning futures said " i own an ar-15 and do not want it taken away, if u r alone and a mob is heading to your door you want one of these".  he is right 

we must not allow this to happen

write the WH and your congressman and senator now or i hope we do like Hong Kong is doing and march.   that may be the last thing we have left if this passes.  NY has already started this weekend to implement theirs.  

We also have to remember that the Left wing liberals have all gone completely bat-crap-crazy with their "Hate-Trump" rhetoric. Just take a quick look (if you can stand it) at any of the MSM media sites. These people are all foaming at the mouth with their verbal assaults and attacks against Trump and his supporters.
These Red-Flag laws are all THEIR ideas, This scheme is right out of the Marxist Saul Alynski "Rules-for-Radicals" play book. We have to stop these things from becoming laws, but let's not help them get rid of Trump in the process.
They think they may have a soft spot in Trump's armor and they are going to exploit that for all it's worth.

A quick Internet search on Red-Flag laws will show hundreds of cases where these laws have been abused and people have been killed for no good reason.

Here's a story from a year ago that illustrates how easy it is for police to get these Red-Flag calls.

Police Invade New Jersey Veteran’s Home, Try to Confiscate Guns Without a Warrant

This veteran was lucky, he managed to survive, (I think).

THIS WAS A GREAT MESSAGE and I hope every gun owner will call, I know I will. THANKS fot making this video 

Can President Trump understand that if he signs that " Red Flag Law " he will not be RE- Elected .???????
I do believe he knows that . Does he want to do that .?????????????????????????? 

Senator Cornyn

 Dear Raffaele:

Thank you for contacting me regarding the recent shooting in El Paso, Texas. I am glad to have the benefit of your views on this tragedy.
I am deeply saddened and disturbed by the recent attack in El Paso, and I believe all individuals who commit acts of terror or violence should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Politically motivated domestic terrorism has no place in American society. Like every Texan, I want to prevent violent crime. Preventing acts of mass violence begins with enforcing existing laws to prevent criminals, persons with mental illness, and other dangerous individuals from obtaining firearms. As a strong proponent of the Second Amendment, I believe it is essential to safeguard law-abiding citizens’ constitutional right to own and use firearms for lawful purposes. Restricting this right runs counter to the intent of our Founding Fathers, who expressly guaranteed that citizens would retain the right to keep and bear arms.
As a former Texas Supreme Court Justice and Attorney General, I have firsthand knowledge of crime-fighting policies that work. I believe Second Amendment rights should not be restricted because of the actions of criminals. Rather, we must focus our attention on the source of violent crime: dangerous individuals who use firearms to harm innocent Americans. I believe strictly enforcing the law and imposing tougher sentences on career criminals and violent offenders who use firearms will reduce violence more effectively than gun or equipment bans, which primarily serve to take firearms away from law-abiding citizens. Furthermore, lawmakers should work to reduce violence by enacting policies that increase treatment options for those who are dangerously mentally ill—a common factor in many acts of mass violence that have occurred in communities across the nation.
This is the debate we should be having—a debate focused on the root causes of mass violence, fully enforcing current law, and addressing improvements to mental health care in America. I will continue to push for effective solutions that protect communities while preserving our constitutional rights.
I appreciate the opportunity to represent Texas in the United States Senate. I hope you will continue to share your views with me regarding issues of importance to you. Thank you for taking the time to contact me.

United States Senator

Dear Senator John Cornyn ; Ted Cruz , Congressman John Carter .
NO Red Flag Gun Laws .

Taking away guns gives control to governments. The founders of this Nation knew that regardless of the form of government, those in power may become corrupt and seek to rule as the British did by trying to disarm the populace of the colonies. It is not difficult to understand that a Disarmed Populace is a Controlled Populace.
Thus, the second amendment was proudly and boldly included in the U.S. Constitution.
It must be preserved at all costs .
“Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed.”
Dear Senator John Cornyn :  The Millions ++ Law Abiding Armed Citizens of this Nation will they give up their guns because  leftists want to do so .???????
Will the Millions ++ Law Abiding Citizens of this Nation become A " VENEZUELA " . ?????????
Please : NO Red Flag Gun Laws .
Thank you Sir .



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