The administration of Barack Hussein Obama  is the most corrupt and dangerous in American history and it is probably connected to equally dangerous international elements. It is quite probable that barack Hussein Obama is attempting to make hismelf dictator for life and has hidden helpers from overseas ready to assist in his bid. The man;s lust for power knows no limits.

 

Except us.

 

Many peole who post at this site are leaning towards secession and civil war as remedies to the Obama nightmare. While either or both could conceivably erupt in the future --and I personally do not fear these in and of themselves, I do fear that these could fail to remove the enemy fifth column operating on American soil and render us worse off than we are now.  That is what I am concerned about.

 

Posters at this site should rmember that there ARE some problems that can NOT be resolved throug firearms. The enemy fifth column operating in America has wedged itself into places that we cannot get at it with firearms--however much we would like to do so.Many Islamic terrornretworks operate from the middle east or Bosnia, places we can't even get to. Then again many Communists do not wear name tags stating they are Communists next door.

 

We must outsmart our enemy. Outgunning the enemy fifth column is not an option when you can't find him

 

Here are some examples of what firearems and/or secession will NOT get rid of:

 

ACORN

 

the ACLU

 

the CAIR

 

Sharia Compliant Finance on Wall Street

 

a mass media corrupted by Islamic and Communist investors

 

These are enemies we cannot shoot--at least for now. We can secede from the federal governemnt and discover that our state legislature is overrun by Communists and jihadist sympathizers. Which would force us to do what wwe should have been doing in the first place using the power of government to keep our nation free from corrupting influences.

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  • And what do you have in mind?
  • Firearms and secession will re-balance the power of fed, states and people. When fed gov is striped of its uncontitutional power, states will be stronger in running their own affairs in the interests of their people.
    Firearms and/or secession will NOT get rid of them, but drying up their funding will! Removing them from framing policies with the government will. Removing the opportunities for them to lobby government will!
    Sure it will take tremendous efforts and time to place constitution-abiding, freedom-loving leaders in power in both fed and state levels, but once they are in place, they can stop funding to all these heinous org and whatnot, stop passing fed or state legislations to 'nurture' them. Without funding and 'nurturing' legislations ACORN and ACLU will die. Our new leaders can dismantle CAIR, eliminate lobbyiing of any kind, especially those from foreign countries;
    educate our young people of our history and values so they will repulse/reject these islamic idealogues. When a new generation of constitution-loving grow up to retake government, we can get rid of all of them.
    So we need to revamp the education system, but currently the corrupt gov is in control of brainwashing our young people via the educ system, so again we need to have the right people in power in the gov to revamp the educ system.

    So it starts with politics. There is no way around it. Have the right kind of leadership and everything will work its way down.

    Firearms and seccession is a good start! We have to start somewhere, don't we?
  • mem to Chris:

    State and local governments are as full of enemy fifth column operatives as now is the federal government. For example, it was the electoral college that voted Barack Hussein Obama into the presidency (not the popular vote). Many state elected officials that voted are leftist radicals who were more or less installed into the political system by the George Soros stealth political crime machine and remain in those offices to this day. In 2012 there may be enough of these people remaining in office in state governments to re-elect Obama. Obama easily qualifies for criminal prosecution, impeachment and incarceration but it is internal corruption and the fifth column infiltrating our government structure (and numerous other institutions including Wall Street and our universities and the entertainment industry) from top to bottom that enable this super-thug to remain in power.

    Thus (although I DO suport and strongly recommend stripping the federal government of most of its power that it now has) we will NOT be out of the woods once the fed is brought under citizen control.

    Not by a long shot.

    The United States government (and many other powerful American institutions) will have to be divested of the enemy fifth column operating within completely and returned to the job of representing the American people. This will probably take years to achieve.

    Civil war and secession, whatever their merits, are at best only partial solutions to this problem.
    • I am well aware of all the infiltration into all levels of government, and, that it will take years and tremendous efforts to undo it.
      We have to start somewhere somehow!
      True, some states are full of corrupt state gov officials (e.g. NJ), but there are many states with people's representatvies working to re-balance the power (state sovereignty, lawsuits against obamacare, legislations for gun rights, to counter amnesty, to require candidates to prove elig......so on and so forth. It appears that there are more 'conservative' states than 'libera'l states now. Even NJ has a Republican governor and NJ patriots are working feverishly to watch every move of the state government, to put tremendous pressures on them to do the right thing for the people of NJ, or they will be removed!

      So We the people: why not garner the will-power and the energy out there, work at the state levels, especially where they are more receptive of re-balancing powers, to begin working at the problems of lopsided power structure?
      There are already 30 or so states pursuing it one way or the other. Get 34 states to work together to repeal the 16th and 17 th Amendment that are choking us to death. It only takes 38 states to ratify. IT CAN BE DONE!

      Meanwhile, to deal a big blow to the shadow government, WE NEED TO REMOVE their puppet usurper from office, or at least challenge them continuously to send them a message: 'Don't tread on me', 'We are not to be taken lightly'!

      It all can be done if only We the sensible people UNITE en masse.

      Puting all our eggs in 1 election basket is not wise.
  • memo to Chris:

    I NEVER said (or believed) we should put all our eggs into any single basket. Removing the enemy fifth column operating inside the USA will take hundreds of baskets and many years. The upcoming November election is probably, however, our best basket in the near future in which to stash a few of our more important eggs.

    My view has consistently been that secession and civil war by themselves are too FEW baskets for us (by far) to win this war. And we should not depend on these two options for deliverance.

    Insofar as Barry Soetoro is concerned you can watch me personally effect a "fundamental transformation" of this man...from a POTUS into a "jailbird."
    SP DailyFresh
    • Louis,
      Not saying you put all eggs in 1 election basket. It is apparent most 'patriots' are.
      Secession is not quite likely. Civil war is just a very remote possibility, because everyone is afraid of potential 'martial law' and 'bloodshed'. So we can put this topic aside.

      I 'd love to watch you personally effect the fundamental transformation of the usurper from a POTUS into a jailbird!

      What do you have in mind. Can I join you? I am a die-hard stander-uper for article 2 nbc presidential eligibility.

      Have you heard of OBOGO (Operation BO has to Go)? A few of us came up with this sort of 'class action suit' filed to Congress to demand reddress of grievances ref Obama usurpation of the presidency. Place burden of proof back on odevil- strictly on the nbc qualification
      Detail:


       http://www.resistnet.com/forum/topics/time-to-prepare-for-stealth
      or

      http://www.scribd.com/doc/24591408/OBOGO-Petition

      I am all for supporting
      ** the Columbia U/Obama trial sponsord by DR. Mannings (5/14 to 19)
      and
      ** 5/29 obamacare and obama eligibility march at DC announced by Phil Berg (obamacrimes.com)
      and
      ** Operation Investigate Obama aka Soetoro, supporting Ltc Lakin -
      (obamareleaseyourrecords.com)
      • Chris, What proof are you looking for? His Hawaiin Birth Certificate? That would only prove he is a 14th Amendment Citizen. As long as that states that his father was BO Senior, it proves that HE is a British Citizen by British Law at the time of his birth.
        Since a natural born Citizen has to have BOTH Parents as United States Citizens, BO isn't and never has been a natural born Citizen by the Constitution.
        • Gary, I am not looking for any proofs. I strongly believe it is already proven O is ineligible to be pres for he fails to meet the requirement for nbc.
          However,
          'Natural born citizen' definition is in debate (the leftists don't agree with our definition according to our founding fathers. Or they don't care if he is nbc or illegal alien!!) The court and/or Congress will have to clarify it but the courts have refused to do so todate and congress is incompetent/cowardly/silent, and, the media is beyond traitorous in keeping this issue buried.

          So the OBOGO petition - 1. lays out the 2-prong test for nbc, 2. states the fact that pelosi and obama claim O a nbc or constitutionally qualified without any proofs, 3.spells out our demand to Congress to reddress our grievances.

          We don't need proof. The constituion is on our side. Congress has the power and authority to investigate O and remove him when he is found to be ineligible. We the people must hold congress's feet to the fire and insist that they fulfill their sworn duty to defend the constitution.

          OBOGO petition demands congress senate trial o and pelosi on their false claims - O and pelosi must be made to explain on what basis they determine O to be a nbc or constitutionally qualified to be POTUS. If they can't explain or have no doc/records/evidences to prove it they will be guilty of fraud. O will be removed from office and pelosi will go to jail.

          I wish people don't harp on the bc but that is most easily understood and accepted. The bc that o is hiding at all costs is either non-existent or contains incriminating info. That can be used to force o's hands and enable us to make discoveries......

          If the military or the court ever demands proofs from o in form of doc/records/evidences, I would love to see what he can drum up! We have no help from any sources, so we have to take what we get - bc, columbia trial, obama eligibility march, anything to discredit o and gang, drive them crazy, scare them to death, go on the offense, distract them, keep the issue alive and well, bring awareness to more people, keep O and Hillary's names from the 2012 ballots......................it is win-win to keep up the pressures in any way shape or form!
  • Bill O’Reilly’s Balancing Act
    By Dr. Alan Bates, M D.

    It is disturbing to see Bill O’Reilly of The O’Reilly Factor on FOX Network stoop to political correctness in order to appear ‘fair and balanced’. At times his pride takes precedence over truth. Mr. O’Reilly is a smart dynamic and well-educated man but the discerning knowledgeable listener will not take his every viewpoint as gospel truth.

    Mr. O’Reilly misses the boat entirely with his arrogant insistence that he has shown Barack Obama to have been born in America and thus a U.S. citizen, solely based upon copies of birth announcements which Mr. O’Reilly claims he has obtained from an Hawaiian newspaper purportedly printed on or about the time of Mr. Obama’s birth. Mr. O’Reilly summarily dismisses the ‘birthers’---those who merely want simple proof that this radical man who was elected President is indeed an American-born citizen. Is that too much to ask when one witnesses a radical ideologue systematically and purposely destroying our economy, security and states’ rights? How can an educated man like Bill O’Reilly be ignorant to the fact that a birth announcement is not proof of birth in any government venue including driver license offices? Too much Kool-Aid? Just as our government ignores laws which apply to illegal immigration, the Democrat Party has not held their elected candidate to the most basic eligibility requirement necessary to run for the office of President. But Mr. O’Reilly gives them a free pass. For the multitude of Americans who want proof that Mr. Obama is qualified to be President of the United States, his resistance to providing a certified copy of his certificate of live birth is highly suspect. Mr. O’Reilly should be truthful, acknowledge this fact and hold Mr. Obama and the DNC accountable.

    Two stories surfaced this week which are most alarming with respect to our military. Our armed forces personnel take an oath to defend our Constitution which Mr. Obama and his Chicago cronies are trampling. It is generally accepted that soldiers must obey the orders of their Commander-in-Chief. But what if the President’s orders and actions run counter to the Constitution? Who is to defend against that encroachment? Our military? The Congress? The Courts? Or We the People? It is shocking that our own military plans to court martial one career serviceman who this week refused his orders to be deployed to the Middle East because he claims Mr. Obama is not qualified to issue orders as his Commander-in-Chief. While the conduct of the serviceman is arguable, the end result is that his refusal to obey commands from a Commander-in-Chief whose credentials are in question may result in jail time when, in fact, Mr. Obama may be more eligible to serve jail time for his purposeful attempts to dismantle our economy, our security and our freedoms.

    The other notable incident this week was an order by the US Navy and Marines that our military servicemen can no longer view FOX Network while the other lying Leftist media outlets are just fine for consumption. Who do you think issued that prohibition and why? It is clear the Left within the Administration are encroaching the First Amendment rights of our servicemen and servicewomen. I would ask Bill O’Reilly how he feels about this infringement by the President whom he defends as legitimate.

    If you wish to send a comment or ask a question of Dr. Alan Bates please use: abb@gulf1.com

    If you wish to write a letter to the Editor please use: http://www.gulf1.net/letters/NewLetter.htm
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