• I have seen both sides from the Architects society's detailed analysis and from the pictures presented by both the Government, the Society and my own eyes from the television set. Frankly, I don't know who's point of view to believe after 12 years......

    • And thus, the gOVERNMENT wins.

      Confusion and distrust are friends of the establishment...



  • If you believe the official story,let me ask you these questions (which started my research into all this)---

    1. Find a picture of the plane that hit the Pentagon-there is none. (and there were approx 80 some video cameras around the building that were immed. confiscated)

    2. Why was thermite found in the basement of the towers and the steel beams had all been cut as in a controlled demolition? (thermite is only used by the government/military)

    3. Why did Larry Silverstein call for building 7 to be "pulled" ( a term used in controlled demolitions)_ when building 7 had not been hit or had any problems?

    4. With all passengars and planes disintegrated-how was the passport of one of the hijackers found in tact at the site? Planted? by whom?

    5. Why was there training going on on that day for this very thing-so that traffic control was confused?

    6. Why was our military, who can respond to this in seconds, sent in the wrong direction to combat the planes?

    7. Why was all the debris, steel beams, etc immediately removed to China? Isn't this a crime scene that no one is allowed to touch until it is investigated?

    8. Why did the towers and building 7 all fall in free form fashion (within 10 seconds) as in a controlled demolition? When a building burns, it does not implode in pancake fashion ontop of each other. Watch a building burn--and see how one side at a time falls over and then topples.

    9. Why were there many eye witness accounts of explosions being heard from the buildings-again indicating controlled demolitions.

    10. Why was the security/electrical off a few weeks before the crashes and Jeb Bushes company given access to the elevators/security stuff that had to be redone?

    11. Why was there massive amounts of put options bought the week before 9/11 on American Airlines and United? There were those that knew something was scheduled and it wasnt the 19 hijackers.

    Research and find the answers to these questions. The official story does not line up. Check out many videos. Search architects for 911  and Pilots for 911 truth. These people certainly know the truth through their professions.

    The answers to these questions do not line up. The official story is lies.

  • My fellow patriots,

    For many years after 9/11 happened I believed, like most everyone else, everything the gov't told us.

    As a retired army veteran with almost 23 years active duty- stationed all over the planet I refused to even consider what the gov't told us was a lie.

    Anytime those 'truther pukes' showed their faces on my TV I would cuss them and even threw my boots at the dang TV!

    But on the 4th of December 2008 I discovered I was absolutely WRONG.

    A friend, a former US Marine, retired with over 20 years asked me to investigate the 9/11 story of the pentagon.

    This grieves me greatly fellow patriots, but after nearly two months of investigating 9/11 thru 220 hours of video footage and reviewing a large number of gov't documents I have concluded without a shred of doubt that NO BOEING 757 HIT THE PENTAGON.

    Years later I still find the absolute ignorance of the American people as a whole on this matter is shocking to say the least. 

    The media and the gov't working together have completely duped We the People into believing this incredible lie.

    First two questions for everyone to mull over in their minds- then some video links for you to investigate on your own.

    1.  Ever wonder why all the footage of the 9/11 events was removed/blocked from our TVs and cable? They said to keep us for staying angry and to prevent 'persecution' of innocent muslims here in America.  The truth?  Even the most precursory investigation of this footage negates the gov't story of events.

    2.  A very simple physics question destroys the pentagon story in just a minute.

    "How do you fit a hollow metal tube, weighing about 80 tons, moving at over 400 mph+, and is 24'10" in diameter into a square hole 16' across?"

    Answer?  It would be physically impossible.  A 757 IS 24'10" in diameter and photos taken within a few minutes of the so called plane crash shows a square hole only 16' across in the facade of the pentagon- with no visible aircraft wreckage on the ground.  No wings, no engines, no rudder, nothing.  Anyone care to explain this one away clearly and without smidgen of doubt?  I spent my entire military career in aviation and I can absolutely identify a plane wreck.  This was not the site of a plane crash!

    Here are a few video links to check out on your own.  View them with an open mind and question everything boldly and with courage- then spread the word to everyone you know.


    USA Retired.



    General of all American Intelligence: 911 was a FRAUD!

    Russian General: US is a Hostage to the Global Mafia Who Did 9/11

    Reflections And Warnings - An Interview With Aaron Russo {Full Film}

  • Could be that it was allowed to happen in order to start all the control of the people. To put fear in us so as to make us more willing and compliant with their plans of who knows what , but it it isn't looking good for us what ever the plans are. I've never been a truther , however I have had my supections.
  • Glad I'm still able to log in!




  • Beam meup Scottie
  • There is NO DOUBT who the enemies were - Muslims - same thought process as our President!!!

  • I am in for the whole nine yards, and those who do not believe that "WE" did it, had better do more research and wisen up.

    • Who's WE, is there a mouse on your shoulder? Muslims did it and no one else, not Bush, Cheney or anyone who is not a hadji scumbag

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