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Please provide your thoughts......this is the place to share your personal observations on realistic efforts we can reasonably expect to pursue that will restore constitutional government, republic principles, and how we can do it?I believe we have one more election, if that, to make a difference in installing representatives that are ready to give their lives for the US Constitution and serve in the US Congress.Read what others have said and share your own........Harry Riley____________________________I, Twana started this new page because some people including myself were getting page load errors...I think because of a ning glitch because of 200 plus comments and I also noticed some people were posting the exact same comment several times, so I believe they probably did not think their comment posted. That is the reason for page 2. You can read the 200 plus comments already posted here.

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  • Thanks Twana........looks like we crashed NING with "What You Think" Comments...........we can go on from here....
  • Col. Riley and Patriots,
    I have a plan. But, I need your help to make it happen. Where do I start? I hope you all will look me over for yourselves and not just take so & so's word or opinion as gospel, as is what I see many people do on blog sites about various topics.
    I agree with many words spoken here. However, for those who look to Glenn Beck to lead them, stop looking. He does a great job with his show, but you are foolish if you expect more to come of it, especially in the direction most of you want to go. I love Beck and what he has done, but stop wishing for that which will not come.

    You have the leaders you need right under your nose. The power is in your hands and it is greater than you think. Do not give up hope. This next year will prove to be very challenging for many. It will be a year of chaos and confusion for some and powerful action and opportunity for others.I believe if you all will jump on board with me, we will be the ones with the power and opportunity.

    Col. Riley, I would like to talk or meet with you if you are able and willing. I would like to team with you as I believe you and I have similar beliefs and ideas. Will you talk and meet with me, sir?

    To give you all a taste of what I seek. Let me share a “small plan of action” I have, but cannot accomplish without all of you jumping on board. You all know how controlled the media is and how silent they are for our side. You all know that there are more of us than there are of them. You also know, as you have all voiced, we need solidarity!

    Will you all think outside the box with me please? Let me give you a sample of what is to come. How many people listen to talk radio? A few million? How many get solid news from the mainstream biased media? Less than that. Of those “liberals” and the rest of America that doesn’t listen to talk radio or watch FoxNews, how many do you think get together to drink beer (or soda) and eat food and WATCH THE SUPERBOWL?

    Aren’t the Superbowl commercials one of the main reasons people, not just in America, but billions around the world watch the Big Game? Yes, I would like to make a superbowl commercial that sends shivers up the “establishment’s” legs, in America and around the globe. This “tingle” won’t be the good little tingle that Chris Matthews said felt so good when describing the “great O”.

    What? A Commercial? Yes, a commercial, but one that sends a very clear message. You will have to trust me for now, just accept the concept.

    The commercial itself wouldn’t take much money or time to make, but getting it on the tube during the game will take millions. I know, this is a big idea, but dream with me a bit.

    A couple million rallied in DC and across the nation and “got ignored.” Many of those Superbowl spectators don’t watch, listen, or care about the things you and I do. But, come Superbowl Sunday, they will get their “bell rung” if you all dare accept this challenge.

    Again, this isn’t even my main goal. It is just a big step in the direction we all want to go. The commercial isn’t going to do much if we don’t get the organization we all seek. So, don’t think that the commercial is the goal. No, it is just the “announcement” from all the “FRAC’n Americans” that we mean business.

    I am putting my name in the hat for Congress for the State of Oklahoma. I will be running against a RINO and his challenger who is a popular Tea Party favorite already. How dare I run against a Tea Party patriot, you ask? Well, I ask you, why should I concede to the first guy in line to run? Wouldn’t it be better to have more to choose from rather than just jump on one person’s bandwagon? Isn’t that what we all hate about the 2 parties already? Why then do we make the same mistake when we rally behind the first guy who has the time to jump up and make noise?

    I have been offered leadership positions for both the Constitution Party and Conservative Party in Oklahoma. For reasons you may not understand if you aren’t in Oklahoma, I explain on my site why I am opting to run in the Republican Primary instead.

    Anyway, to learn more about me and my vision for America, please visit my education/activist website and be sure to visit the commentary section and all the other sections to fully understand me and my vision.

    By the way, I started this the week before Beck started the 9/12 Project. If I had a radio or tv program, you’d be talking about me already. Don’t bother telling me to contact Beck either. I tried before and after he started his deal and have never received a reply.

    Additionally, before you tell me my FRAC Gram Campaign is a copy of the Pink Slip Campaign, I would like you to know that it is the other way around. I contacted both Joseph Farah and Jane Porter months before they “came up” with their campaign and was ignored.

    I also have tried working with other groups in the beginning, such as ResistNet and others, only to be ignored by their leadership as well. Maybe, I’m too edgy. You decide for yourself. Tell me what you think.

    Needless to say, I am very suspicious of many of the “established” sites that claim to be grassroots. I’m not saying they don’t do good things or have good people, but I do believe their leadership is questionable, especially if they think Newt is a conservative and a leader to follow.

    So, dare you listen and follow my vision? When I first started, only to see so many others take off, I felt like throwing in the towel. But, something inside me has kept me going. Over the past year, I have discovered many things and my site has morphed into what you see now. Maybe I was too early and now is the time for what I offer.

    If you dare accept my mission and vision as the “umbrella” you all are seeking, please do not send in your FRAC Grams yet. Also, tell everyone else you know to hold off on them. I know my site calls for it, but let this be between us if you choose to join me. Tell everyone you know to hold off on the FRAC Grams until the Superbowl.

    However, before the commercial can be made and put on the Superbowl, we need to come up with the money. I’m not asking for donations. I haven’t yet done so like many other sites. The Tea Parties and rallies have been great. I attended and even called for them myself, but now is time for other action.

    Rather than spend your money on traveling to rallies that the “machine” ignores, put your money to use for a cause that will both educate and activate the people of this great land.

    On my site you will find educational materials that you and your family need to properly fight this freedom fight. If you already have these materials, get them for someone you know.

    Before you blast me for being an “opportunistic capitalist”, I plead guilty! How else does someone come up with money unless they just ask for it for nothing in return, as so many other sites do, or they manipulate the market and steal from the millions of ignorant investors like Soros and Congress have?

    If I asked for just donations, I could raise much more money much more quickly, but as many of you have stated, you are about burned out on that. So, as I have always done on my site to this point, I am offering you something for your money. Please accept my offer and put your money to good use.

    Your money will pay for materials that will benefit you and your family and you can use it again and again as you educate those in your community with it. This is one thing many sites fail to understand. We must educate the masses, not just motivate and guide them around like angry sheep without a shepherd.

    Additionally, if few people support the idea, at least you will not have wasted your money on empty promises.
    I need a few million people to buy the Gold Pack or the equivalent in price. Most of the price actually covers the cost, so it’s not like all the money goes into the “FRAC America” coffer.

    Col. Riley, before you reject this or even jump on board, please speak with me. I need trusted individuals to team with and would like to brainstorm organization and vision with you.

    For any of you who live in Oklahoma, please consider helping me with my campaign if you like what you see. If you read this before Tuesday night (17th), please come to the Canadian County GOP meeting to meet me. At this time of writing (Monday night) I am in Texas. I will be heading back home tomorrow to announce my candidacy at this meeting.

    For those of you associated with other groups, please ask your other group to become an affiliate with our “Network of Patriotic Extremists” section. See site for details. We need to work together and help each other raise funds for our organizations without feeling threatened and “competed against” like so many do.

    Also, I would like to invite you all to consider designs for “FRAC” merchandise. I haven’t focused on developing more than what is now in there. I still need to change the date from 2009 to 2010 on the original shirt. Don’t post any ideas yet or send them. Just think about them. Once a system is developed, we will offer a way to “share the wealth” with those of you with creative minds and ideas that sell to consumers. But, don’t share yet. No promises yet, so don’t share yet. Fair enough?

    For now, if you like what you see, please buy what you can and share with everyone you know. My education/activist website is: www.fracamerica.org

    I will be developing a campaign website soon. I just decided to run last week. Hopefully, I will meet some talented and politically experienced people tomorrow night that can help me get my campaign going on the right foot.

    Thank you for your time, attention, and consideration. I hope to have your participation. Oh, one more thought. If you think Joe Wilson stirred things up, you ain’t seen nothing yet. If I do not succeed in getting Obama, Pelosi, and many others (in both parties) impeached, then I expect to be impeached in the process.

    What say you? Are you with me, or shall we keep blogging?

    Thank you,
    Jeff Pritchard,
    Co-founder www.fracamerica.org
    Freedom of Religion, Arms, & Commerce in America
  • Back in October, I attended the Defending the American Dream Summitt held in Washington DC. They had several trainings that I attended. One of the trainings I attended, actually dealt with the topic we are discussing in this thread: I will share with everyone the notes I jotted down from the training:

    The reason why all of America is not jumping on board is becasue we are not doing a very good job in transferring our thoughts into what those that read in them. What is happening is most of the time, we are letting our passions, our anger, and desperation get the best of us. All this is doing is instilling fear deep into people. People are literally scared. They feel what would it matter? Why should I get involved? Nothing will matter what we do. They will still get away with it all. We are doomed. What happens is also apathy sets in.

    So what we need to do is, do a better job in understanding the target audience. We need to do a better job in getting them to understand how will they interpret what we do say. Use words and language they will interpret. Use words and language that they will relate to. Fianlly use words and language that will answer questions for them.

    Why should I care?

    What has this to do with me?

    How one does this is through the 3 f's

    Feel, felt, and find out

    For as the one speaker told us M = EC 3

    This tranlates to this: a Message must have Emotion and these 3 things:

    Contrast
    Connection to your life
    Credibility why does it work better?

    But here is the main thing... we need to focus on one issue at a time. And we need to stay on message
    Staying on messgae is the key .

    But what is happening is we are getitng sidetracked. They are throwing so much at us all at once. We are totally becoming overwhlemed by it all. This is why one feels the ship is sinking. But if everyone could just focus on one main message, and speak in unionisn on this one message. And if we do it not through scare tactics, but you turn it around and let one feel deep inside of them, why this can affect them, why you should care , then they will see the light.

    But the other thing is this wiith this massage that is so needed,.as they shared with us. We are also not connecting the dots. We all know the press an dthe media that is out there. They will not connect the dots. People do not see why we need for example to learn about the founding fathers. To read what they said , They say there is no connection to the past to what is happening today.

    With PFA, this is what we are trying to do. This is why this website is key and critical to this all. Even if we have people
    in here that do sidetrack one. The message is loud and clear. and it goes back to what Col Riley says this website is all about..

    ..."This effort is focused on sacrifice to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic. "

    On this website we try to connect those dots for you. To bring this message home for you even more. That is in the tabs at the top of the page. Especially under the Founding Documents section.

    This is why this site should never be shut down.
  • Let me also address something else that I am seeing more and more of out there. Again this is something that was stressed to us in a grassroots training I attended: We MUST learn to work together. We need to cast aside the D R or I.
    We have to stop thinking inside of the box.

    Also this is critical. We must stop clashing with others. We cannot let opinions get into this. We cannot call people names, or say to someone you are wrong. We are letting way to much of our passion get the best of us. Yes we can agree to disagree. But can we PLEASE put all of this disagreement aside once and for all?

    One last note that was really stressed to everyone at that Summitt.Even at the 9/12 March in DC..

    That is 2010. Even if you do not think it would matter. Even if you think that everyone will still be relected next year.
    Let us focus everything we have on flipping that house in 2010. Let us get that message out there to the American citizens.

    And think POSITIVELY! YES WE CAN!
  • I Think we need to pull all these groups together and Get involved in the Real work that's going on.
    SOme of the footage used may make you recoil, at first but KEEP watching! We have to admit wrong doing on ALL SIDES of' the isle'.....There are videos of the whole event on the website and ''ts going on until Nov.22. State & County representatives are still needed.

    Constitutional Congress 2009

  • Hello all...... One of the major problems we have is the liberal media. If we are exposed to these zealots they then crucify us in prime time. (Tea bagging rednecks) Remember this quote?
    We need to discredit the media for what it is, they have to make a profit to continue to spew vile disdain about patriotic Americans. You are to walk in lock step with the rest of the ACORN, SEIU,AFL-CIO, UAW,etc. I think I have made the point. Control of people is power and with power you control wealth, accountability and self reliance of the people.
    The people of the major cities of the world who are born there and grow up there do not have the same moral education as children born and raised in a rural environment.So much of the problem lies in where you were raised and the culture climate you were exposed to. This is not to say that there are not patriots in the cities, there are just not as many for a one on one ratio.
    I am very seriously think of running for the congressional seat held buy a far left Progressive here in NM 2 district. If there are any out there that might be of some help it would be received readily. Contact me through this medium and if things look right I will open up other resources of communication.
    • Go for it Darrell.......give us a glimpse of your platform/objectives........
    • RUN, DARRELL, RUN.... don't hold back!
  • http://www.scribd.com/doc/22288917/Judy-v-Obama

    Just wanted to share a link of what I am doing. If there are any lawyers out there who feel this would be better filed in case all by itself, let's roll. The information is here, but I lack the funds to persue it all by myself as I did with McCain's NBC case reported in this file also.
    The other thing I wanted to say as far as participation on this site I think many people care and want to do something, but they don't want to waste time, money, or effort. In short 3% actually fought in the revolutionary war and only 20% supported it while the other was complacent and didn't care enough. The lesson is with a very small minority big things actually do happen. It's deciding that with the right principle as the sharp point of the arrow a very thick wall can be penatrated.
    God bless the United States of America and God bless all those who are willing to help.

    Your brother in freedom and liberty
    Cody Robert Judy
    www.codyjudy.us
    codyjudy@hotmail.com
  • In response to the Colonels question, It seems others have posted many of the same observations I have but I haven't read them all. I've seen some comments about Tea Party supporters not being clear or expressing our messages correctly.

    The message is quite clear. Belief in what our country is and who we are as a nation is suppressed by the medias.

    Most of the apathy by citizens isn't due from indifference. It's from ignorance. Ignorance by the avoidance of meaningful news and the absence of substantive debate.

    Elected officials have no fear because they'll be skirted to another position and receive full pensions and benefits. They should have all their assets confiscated just as a drug dealer would.

    It's nice to think we're so civil but we won't get their attention until we take it. Examples from what the left like to do would suffice. Cream pies at Coulter or red paint thrown on fur clothing. Kinda like the joke about the farmer and stubborn mule. Farmer breaks a 2x4 across the mules head and says he had to get the mules attention before he can reason with him.

    Is Site effective or purposeful?
    These sites are the lifeblood of the restoration movement. Many members here are also members of other sites. The march on DC and Tea Parties would not have been nearly as successful without them.

    Therein lays the strength and power for the "change" back to what our nation was meant to be. It’s just not organized.

    We come here for information of what's happening throughout our country. As well as looking for the confirmation of "it's good to know others feel this way". We come here in hopes of some guidance in what is a frustrating and sometimes seemingly hopeless situation. And we come here to hear the good news when we've made some progress

    Despair and hopelessness are the greatest enemies for anyone.

    Just because only a small percentage of members participate in the "chat" does not mean the non-participating chat members are not inspired and motivated into action. Nor does it mean they are not active in some form. Don't forget that the public whining, community organizing and bitching are new and unknown to many of the silent majority. It’s changing. It’s changing because of sites like this one.

    Actions:
    Unknowns running for positions at the local levels are indeed great but how long would that actually take? Rebuilding from the ground up is a nice idea BUT exactly how much time do we have before America is the largest third world nation?

    Understand this... IF Americans take this nation back in the 2010 and 2012 elections, corrections will have to be made for this not to happen again. Charges of conspiracy, collusion and treason must be brought against members of congress, the judiciary and many others both foreign and domestic. The forces working together to destroy America will not be in this position of power again for at least three more generations. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend". To what extend do you think those forces will go not to let that happen.

    These sites should be "Networking Together" to "choose" a few loyal and proven representatives already in government. Back them. Give them Open support. Gather for demonstrations not in protest but in support of them. Give them the confidence to stand up. Give them the courage to stand up. Show them in numbers who will follow when they step forward to lead.

    We could wait for the media to tell us who has gravitas or who is electable. We could always choose...

    Newt, yes Nancy we have global warming and I think Succoflavor is great, Gingrich.
    Mit, Hallelujah! I own a hotels and show porn to attract business but I didn't know about it/ I have government run health care and now it's bankrupting my state but they made me do it, Romney
    How about Mike, Illegal aliens - got kids?my state will pay for their college education, Huckleberry.
    The Maverick McCain.

    Not even recycled. The same shit in the same wrapper.

    We already have the leaders to turn our country around. The biggest problem seems to be they just aren't the ones we may like or want. But maybe they are something as simple as what we need.

    Michelle Bachman of Minnesota has been very boisterous on her views

    James Inhofe of Vermont had gotten attention pushing state sovereignty and involvement on ACORN.

    Ron Paul and now hopefully his son Rand.

    Duncan Hunters son, also Duncan Hunter, of California seems to be towing a steady conservative line.

    We have them already. Some are visible and some are not. But the medias won't let you know it. Their job is to run damage control and maintain the illusion.

    And my personal favorite, Sarah Palin. The liberal media has made a non-stop virulent attack on both her and her family since the announcement of her VP run. When the RNC, RHINOs, NeoCons and so-called conservative media hosts did nothing to defend her in any way, I figured, how can you go wrong? There couldn't be a better endorsement.

    Simply put, again, these sites are the lifeblood but it needs a body. Elect Site Representatives who would communicate with other elected Site Representatives of Member Sites. An elected representative should not be a representative member of another site. The goal being to choose and select, beginning with each individual sites’ membership, the most conservative/constitutional and proven government representatives we already have in congress. As I stated previously, these would be the ones to "In-Your-Face" support. With a large enough organized base we would also have direct input to them. Also when organized, it can be used to coordinate protests with a much more powerful effect. A much more powerful force than SIEUs pathetic 2.5 million. Just the NRAs membership alone puts the SIEUs numbers to shame.

    These enemies’ numbers are insignificant compared to ours. Only they’re organized, committed and they smell the blood.

    Not RNC not DNC... Americans can choose their leaders.

    Building the infrastructure, unfortunately, is very proactive. The rest would begin to fall into place.

    Besides it could be something to do while we wait for our Phoenix to rise.
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    I’d like to try a parable.

    I heard of a story set in an ancient land occupied by Roman invaders.

    A man, riding on a donkey, came through the gates of an ancient city. Some claimed he was the Messiah… the Christ. Seems like the Romans didn't give a damn who he was as long as he didn't interfere with their control. The clergy wasn't fond of the idea their ponzi scheme would come to an end. After all, the more gold they were given, the closer to God they would get you. And the people, in general, were looking for a leader to rise them up and cut off the heads of these invaders and occupiers, and some were looking for paradise on earth.

    Maybe not what was wanted or expected. Just... what was needed.
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